So, are you saying the Gospel is not of God? The person dead in their trespass and sin in their relationship to God but not dead to their relationship to God's Gospel?
How much can a dead man hear? How much can a dead man believe? How much can a dead man repent? How much can a dead man obey.
You are right. It is very simple. You don't understand what being dead means.
Dr Boettner and The Offer of the Gospel
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by AndyMartin, May 26, 2017.
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This does not mean that we are not to proclaim the gospel to everyone, but where in scripture do we find a "Invitation", it is not found, what is rather found is "Repent and Believe", a command, and this command goes to all, however not all are elect, so this call will only have some effect, namely those of the DEFINITE ATONEMENT. Limited Atonement is an unfortunate term, the Arminian term is even worse "Possible Atonement", that is even though it's clear Christ did not die for all (If He did all men's sins would be paid for, and God could never judge them again, IE if Hitlers sin were paid for by Christ, then they were paid for and he is in Heaven today.
"Possible Atonement" is what Arminians believe, that is Jesus died for a men, but possibly had no effect, why? For out of mans free will, which is stronger than God's free will they say, it's possible that NO ONE COMES, this is no gospel, is heresy, and should be put in the category of theology of the Roman Church.
The bible teaches Definite Atonement, Eph 1, Romans 8&9, John 6, etc. That is God's plan cannot be faltered, those who were chosen before the foundation of the world were regenerated by God, and when they heard the gospel call responded, the repented and believed, while the non-elect hate the gospel, they willingly hate Christ and God.
The reason for confusion is only ignorance on the Arminian side, they try to make it sound like some, oh they'd love to come to God, but shoot they are non-elect, this is not Scriptural and not what we believe, the non-elect hate God, do not desire Him, and never will, there has never been a human in history who desired God who has been rejected. When you talk to a person about the Lord and he curse you and Christ, chances are He's non-elect.
Arminians keep trying, but this is amateur stuff, you can battle God all you wish, but you're only harming yourself, and insulting God. Jesus on the night of His betrayal, in His high priestly prayer, He prayed that all would come, right? Wrong, He prayed "Father I do NOT pray for the world, but FOR THOSE YOU HAVE GIVEN ME", study folks, and you won't fall into this anti-Christian heresy -
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If you mean "General Call", that is "Believe on the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved", what about it? We had the ten COMMANDMENTS, NO ONE did them! So we are to take the gospel to all, for God knows the elect, but we don't, there is no "E" on their shirts. In your way of thinking it's possible that NO ONE IN ALL TIME BELIEVE, for it's all chance, your god is in heaven, in infinite love with all, begging like a child, "Oh please oh please come to me I love you", "shoot another that I love dies, now I have to change and pour out my furious wrath, sorry one that I love, now I have to hate you and torture you, such bad luck you lived in Iran".
You get out of your TRADITION, and get into SCRIPTURE, put off all of the liberalism you've been taught. A great starting point is watching online debates, no Arminian has ever beat a Calvinist because we have scripture on our side, they have philosophy and emotion. I pray God opens your eyes, your god is small and puny, a beggar who is defeated every day -
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