Faulty theology pt 2

Just to be perfectly clear: my post #19 is in no sense an apology of any sort.
Nor have I borne false witness against anyone.

 

It is unfortunate that you plagiarized without giving the source. That is on you.

Second, the context around the verses matter, which is why I shared the larger portion.
Your method was no different than the Roman Catholic Church, which chops up the Bible into sentences and then uses the sentence to prooftext and create faulty theology. I think your theological stance on this issue is very faulty and bordering on heresy.

I am done talking with you on this matter.

 

Calminian Said;
Yes, you are right, you are not a calvinists or arminian. You are full Pelagian. Your argument that Catholics believe in original sin, therefore it's wrong is fallacious at best. Catholics believe in the Trinity, so I suppose you deny that also.


But original sin, that idea that Adam took on a sin nature when he fell, and passed it to his descendants is thoroughly biblical..

Rom. 5:19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.

You have to reject Paul to deny it.

Your accusation have no basis. I don't believe you even know what you are saying. I do not believe I can save myself. Christ saved me. I was called and drawn just like you. The difference is I do not add to scripture my own doctrines like you do. I do not believe in creeds and confessions of faith. I do not believe in Calvinism or Arminianism. My Christianity does not depend on what people like you think I am I will tell you what I am. I am a born again Christian who will not accept all your false Catholic doctrines.. I do not reject Paul's teachings but then I don't add nonsense to it either.
MB

 

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Calminian
Your accusation have no basis. I don't believe you even know what you are saying. I do not believe I can save myself. Christ saved me. I was called and drawn just like you. The difference is I do not add to scripture my own doctrines like you do. I do not believe in creeds and confessions of faith. I do not believe in Calvinism or Arminianism. My Christianity does not depend on what people like you think I am I will tell you what I am. I am a born again Christian who will not accept all your false Catholic doctrines.. I do not reject Paul's teachings but then I don't add nonsense to it either.

 

What a great blessing he won't talk anymore yipee
MB

 

Which post are you referring to so I can see what he said?

 

The spirit aspect of us is what died off in the fall, as God Himself must quicken us back to having a living spirit, as that is where we relate to God!

 

The big problem and mistake that you are making is that spiritual life as paul related it refers to glorified eternal state we will have, but John relates it to eternal life we have right here and now, as new creations in Christ!
So like us, Adam had both a physical and a spiritual life in Him due to being created by God directly, and no sin nor Fall yet happening!

 

He was spiritually dead, as in needing a messiah then, but why would he not be spiritually alive to God before, when he needed no savior as of yet?

 

Paul related 'spiritual life"there to our final glorified states, not that life we have right now, as John made clear!

 

Seems an awful lot like that theology held by our friend MB!

 

Adam was in a relationship with God before he sinned, no need of the messiah, so had spiritual life!

 

You keep on repeating Pelagius heresy!

 

I agree with that. Does Scripture state anywhere that soul and spirit are distinct from each other?

 

This is why MB is supporting JonC. Both are taking a position that Baptists do not take.