Why has the homosexual agenda gained so much momentum in later years? Is it because we surrended to Feminism decades ago?
I recently read an interview with Phyllis Trible in the latest issue of Biblical Archaeology Review. I'm not sure if BAR is advocating her view, or if it was meant as a backdoor exposé, but to justify her views she must marginalize Paul's theology about man being created first as just one reading of the Genesis text, and put forth a contradictory but equal reading from a feminist's point of view.
The implications of her point are clear, as described in a quote at the end of this post, their being in the image of God had nothing to do with their relationship to each other as male and female, but as non-procreating humans. Therefore "both heterosexual and homosexual relational experience make possible the imaging of God."
Was the battle for America's families lost with the ratification of the 19th Amendment?
Feminism = Homosexuality?
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Aaron, Mar 31, 2006.
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Forgive me if this is overly simplictic but I am 25 years old now and when I was growing up I always heard about how as time went on things would get worse and worse. I feel the horrible, wicked homosexual movement is a by-product of the times we live in. I remember wondering as a kid if I would notice the changing times but now years later with abortions, gays, sexual immorality at an all time low, and many other things, yeah, I noticed the difference. Times have changed and the Bible is true. People have waxed worse and worse.
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Aaron, what is feminism? (in your definition)
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a liberal female
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A female with a brain and tongue?
Keep 'em barefoot and pregnant and, thank God, don't let them have a vote in church or anywhere else. Don't take this priesthood of the believer thing too far, lest we get them uppity women tellin' us menfolk what to do.
Next thing you know, we'll be letting darkies and spics vote, and then them queers. -
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However, years ago I heard Elisabeth Elliot say that Feminism will lead to the acceptance of homosexuality. The closest thing I could find to that statement on the Net was this:
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At the end, the decline will be on a global scale, and the judgment brought will equal that. It will be as it was in the days of Noah. -
At the end, the decline will be on a global scale, and the judgment brought will equal that. It will be as it was in the days of Noah. </font>[/QUOTE]I agree. The wicked will be taken away and the righteous will be left behind. :D
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Aaron, I answer you in a new thread titled "Feminism".
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I'll stick with the Bible, and your pun is less than respectable and totally uncalled for.
I thought for aminute I had some respect for you, but that has just........................... CHANGED! -
A mother's place is in the home, being the mother. A man's place is to provide the means for maintaining the home, even if it means letting momma have a job to provide the finances due to the inability of the man to work.
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I think the reason that 20th and 21st century feminism inevitably leads to acceptance of homosexuality is the minimizing of gender differences. The present-day cultural feminism that opposes or minimizes gender roles (women primarily raising children at home, men primarily being the breadwinner [I am exempting single mothers - I am one so I know]) has paved the way for minimizing all sexual differences, not just in work or home roles, but in intimate relationships as well. That leads to homosexuality being accepted as a norm.
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Why does the woman need a man's permission to work? Does a man need a woman's permission to stay home? :confused: -
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Then, you posited that ratification of the 19th Amendment lost the battle for America's families. Then you posted information that had nothing to do with the 19th Amendment.
Now, a case could be made that radical feminism — disregard of all male-female differences — could in some way argue for the legitimacy of homosexuality.
The Enlightenment and the cult of self are far, far more potent explanations for the acceptance of homosexuality, though it has existed in all times, whether recognized or not. -
One does not have to be a homosexual to approve of homosexuality. The Mark of the Beast doesn't have to be on the hand AND the forehead. Those who practice and those who approve are equally guilty before God, Rom. 1:32.
Still, you didn't meet the argument head on. You created a charicature and railed against that.
Once an unbiblical premise gets its foot in the door, the battle's over.
Now, a case could be made that radical feminism — disregard of all male-female differences — could in some way argue for the legitimacy of homosexuality.
What is the difference between radical feminism, and the feminism that you are advocating? Where is one correct and the other false? This is a real question. Where do you draw the line between one and the other?
The Enlightenment and the cult of self are far, far more potent explanations for the acceptance of homosexuality, though it has existed in all times, whether recognized or not.
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Still, you didn't meet the argument head on. You created a charicature and railed against that.
There was no argument to meet. You created the caricature from statements that were not related to the material you presented.
Again it asks a question. What was the basis of women's sufferage? Was this an evangelical thrust, did it stem from biblical theology or from the philosophies of 18th Century Enlightenment?
The fact that it was a "question" about women's suffrage is neither here not there. It was only a rhetorical "question." You had assumed the answer.
What is the difference between radical feminism, and the feminism that you are advocating? Where is one correct and the other false? This is a real question. Where do you draw the line between one and the other?
I did not realize I was advocating feminism. I only advocate basic human rights. Dealing with questions about where the line is to be drawn is difficult, but that's what free people do.
And, again, Feminism has its roots in the Enlightenment.
Well, yeah. So does capitalism. So did the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. So did abolitionism. So do 1001 things that affect our world. Do you contend that everything that came out of the Enlightenment is bad?
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