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Decide for yourself--good advice--after some serious digging and comparision to
The Word of God--the only authority on Truth.
"Let God be found True, and every man a liar."
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Yep. Secular humanism....and it's not limited to Freemasonry.
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Actually....let's make this real:
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You are trying to tell me that from a very wide perspective of Masonic writings which all agree with the conclusions I have presented concerning their history and intents that I am wrong but you are right simply because of your own personal experience and research.
That reminds me of the Pentecostals who claimed that I did not know what I was talking about when it came to their speaking in tongues and baptism in the Spirit BECAUSE THEY HAD EXPERIENCED IT AND I HAD NOT.
Well, I have never murdered a person, committed adultery (with regard to the acts) and yet I don't have to experience these things to know they are wrong.Instead, you flee to every man's own interpetation as though the Masonic organization had no specific intents behind such symoblisms when originating them?????????!!!!?????
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I am trying to tell you that Freemasonry is symbolic and subjective in its symbolism. This is true with its history as well (John J. Robinson wrote a very popular book that many take as history, but so did Davis....and the "histories" are different).
There are Masonic books about how Masons originated with King Solomon. But there are other books that relate them originating in England as a type of labor union during the Middle Ages. There are books that have them coming about as blue collar workers and then introducing the philosophers and artists until the latter defined the group. There are explanations that they originated from with the Catholic church. No one really denounces other views because it's subjective. The "official" stance is that no one knows (this is stated in the first degree ritual).
So yes, Masons have written in a very wide perspective. You have Albert Pike's interpretation. But you also have Duncan's and MacKay's interpretations. Add to this the hundreds and hundreds of other interpretations all differing. Which one is the "real" interpretation? If you ask the Freemasons, they will say all are real because Freemasonry is not a religion. It is what it is to the member.
Your inability to accept this fact does not make it less true. And my view that you are on the right side of the issue (against Freemasonry in the church) does not lessen the fact that you are sinning by bearing false witness on a group of people we both to whom we both object.
Why should I consider your sin as any less than theirs?
"In some ways, the relationship between Masonry and religion is like the relationship between the Parent-Teacher Association (the P.T.A.) and education. Members of the P.T.A. believe in the importance of education. They support it. They assert that no man or woman can be a complete and whole individual or live up to his or her full potential without education. They encourage students to stay in school and parents to be involved with the education of their children. They may give scholarships. They encourage their members to get involved with and to support their individual schools.North Raleigh Masonic Lodge - J.J. Crowder #743
When we examine what a group of people believe we look at their stances. This is true of Calvinists, this is true of Arminianism, this is true of Christians, this is true of Islam, and this is true of Freemasons. You have no right to ascribe to them a belief they claim not to hold. It is dishonest and you should know it. Click to expand...
Freemasonry is both a religion and a gnostic philosophy working side by side. [edited]
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I left long ago.
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