As I stated on another thread, if this bill passes without the ammendment granting exemptions to individuals, they will be in violation of the law. Iow, if you are a photographer and refuse to photograph a gay wedding in D.C., you will be violating the law. Right now the bill only contains exemptions for churches and church officials regarding performing the ceremony. This does not include Christian charitable organizations, however, which could be charged with violating the law.
Source
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/11/AR2009111116943.html
The vote on this bill is next month, and if it passes, gay couples will be able to marry in the nation's capital probably in the spring.
Gay Marriage Vote Nears in DC; Fight Over Religious Exemptions
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Marcia, Nov 11, 2009.
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No one here seems to care that gay marriage may soon be legal in our nation's capital. Just think about it - in our nation's capital. And it may put Christian charities out of business.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I wouldn't go that far
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For example, even though gender discrimination is illegal, religious organizations can refuse to hire women. Even though ethnic/racial discrimination is illegal, religious groups can refuse to hire people of certain ethnicities. Even though religious discrimination is illegal, religious groups can refuse to hrie people of certain religions. -
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I just saw the news report on local DC news.. .I love the fact that the Catholic church is threatening to withhold money from DC.. MILLIONS if they don't give more exemptions!
GO Catholic Church... stick it to DC!
And the councilman that was interviewed of course said the church was discriminating...
Oh those poor perverted abominations that call themselves "Gay"...
They may get their sissy feelings hurt.. booo hoooo hooo..
They need to grow up and be real men.. .not sissy loving freaks of nature they are!
John, sorry, but DC's sovereignty doesn't trump God's morals... -
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I've done so, and what I posted is correct.
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There are 2 issues raised in this article - Catholic Charities, which may have to stop their services in DC, and individuals, such as caterers, who will not be protected from violating the law. This is on today's front page of the Washington Post:
If Alexander's amendment is rejected, which it seems for sure it will be, then the caterer cannot refuse to do this cake without breaking the law. -
There is a hot debate over this in DC and I've been following it. I know the issues. I've posted them here. But you keep on insisting things are not the way they really are. Are you in denial or what? -
Christians perhaps being persecuted because of their faith? Isn't that what we should expect throughout the world as the norm? Sometimes I think that we American Christians consider the relatively brief period in human history where we have been relatively free of adverse consequences from being Christians is what we should expect, yea, a very right of being an American Christian.
II Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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However, I am also reminded of this passage from Romans chapter 5:
3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. -
I am reminded of a hymn by Isaac Watts called "Am I A Soldier Of The Cross":
1. Am I a soldier of the cross,
a follower of the Lamb,
and shall I fear to own his cause,
or blush to speak his name?
2. Must I be carried to the skies
on flowery beds of ease,
while others fought to win the prize,
and sailed through bloody seas?
3. Are there no foes for me to face?
Must I not stem the flood?
Is this vile world a friend to grace,
to help me on to God?
4. Sure I must fight, if I would reign;
increase my courage, Lord.
I'll bear the toil, endure the pain,
supported by thy word.
5. Thy saints in all this glorious war
shall conquer though they die;
they see the triumph from afar,
by faith they bring it nigh.
6. When that illustrious day shall rise,
and all thy armies shine
in robes of victory through the skies,
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After 15 minutes of Googling, (is that a word?), I can't find where there is such a thing as a 'sovereign district' in the U.S. constitution.
Maybe you can, Johnv.
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And I think Christians (and there are other groups against gay marriage as well) should speak out on this because basically our freedom to act on our beliefs could be eroded by this one issue. -
2) If we don't live in D.C. then I don't see how we can have influence on what the local government in D.C does. Also, I think we should do what God would have us to do regardless of whether we have the freedom to do it or not. -
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There's another article on this today. They cannot discriminate because they receive some public funds and would have to abide by the city's laws. Their adoption agency could not refuse adoption to same s*x couples, for instance.
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