Same as many other preterists, you make two goofs:
1.) Assuming that all non-prets are dispies.
2.) Reducing "inconvenient" Scriptures to "figurative/symbolic' status. that's an easy pret method for trying to compensate for the FACT that the prophetic events they SAY have already happened are totally-absent from history. that excuse melts in the light that Jesus' prophecies that HAVE already cometa pass have done so VERY-LITERALLY, TO THE LETTER.
If your view is true, you should be able to:
Tell us the name of the antichrist and his false prophet.
Describe the marka the beast.
Tell us when the sky rained rocks worldwide & all green grass was burned up.
Tell us when all life in the seas died.
Tell us when Jesus returned, SEEN BY ALL, as He said.
I doubt if you can even come close to doing ONE of those things.
""PRETERISM - PHONY AS A FORD CORVETTE!"
God's word [and] Dispensationalism
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Hermeneut7, Aug 7, 2017.
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Didn't answer my query.
Yes, I know the entire Bible is Jesus-centric, but men didn't know Him in BC days. Thus, those peopleworshipped God according to the law He gave Israel, while God counted peoples' treatment of other people for or against them, among those who'd never heard of God. Those things were, of course, part of a different dispensation from that which Jesus established with His coming & implementation of the New Covenant. And obviously, God will deal differently with men in the nrext world. -
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And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel -
Is the beginning of the gospel, the promise of a deliverer from sin and death.
The Book of Job predates the law:
Job 19
25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.
Israel was to proclaim the gospel of salvation DAILY (from day to day) among the heathen:
Psalm 96:1 O sing unto the LORD a new song: sing unto the LORD, all the earth.
2 Sing unto the LORD, bless his name; shew forth his salvation from day to day.
3 Declare his glory among the heathen, his wonders among all people.
4 For the LORD is great, and greatly to be praised: he is to be feared above all gods.
5 For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.
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And that HE IS COMING to judge the earth
13 Before the LORD: for he cometh, for he cometh to judge the earth: he shall judge the world with righteousness, and the people with his truth.
Isaiah 53
10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
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Every Old Testament Prophet preached Christ. -
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A prophecy against Egypt: See, the LORD rides on a swift cloud and is coming to Egypt. The idols of Egypt tremble before him, and the hearts of the Egyptians melt with fear.
Ecclesiastes 1:4
Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever.
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The OT prophets had the Kingdom reign of Messiah as having no sickness, wars, famines, all would know real God, right? -
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The Lord Jesus has bound the strong man, and ever since then the Gospel has been going out into the world and Satan's house has been plundered. In Revelation 20: 2-3, Satan is bound specifically 'so that he should deceive the nations no more.' He can no longer stop the nations coming to Christ as they have been doing throughout the NT period.
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1 John 2:22
1 John 4:3
2 John 1:7
The beast is mentioned in rev. 13. (Actually, two beasts.) Just connect the fifty-or-so verses that mention the man of sin/son of perdition (Those about Judas excluded)/ that Wicked. They definitely show the beast and the antichrist are the same man.
His deputy, the false prophet, will actually issue the marka the beast.
The earth will be re-formed by God when the time comes. he will melt down the present earth & make it anew, same as we make new steel objects outta old steel. -
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1 John 2:22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.
1 john 4:3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
2nd John 1:7 I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
Your verses go against what you are trying to say about being one man/the beast. -
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So, I can't find fault with anyone rejecting dispensationalism because of the checkered past and overreaching doctrine of some of the individuals promotion thereof.
My own "dispensationalism" is largely redacted from the historical brand of Scofield, Dallas, etc.
However the one thing that greatly puzzles me would be the MYRIADS of unkept promises God has given to the nation of Israel if the distinction between Israel and the church is discarded.
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HankD
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