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Gun Confiscation Crusade Begins

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Wesley Briggman, Mar 3, 2018.

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  1. TCassidy

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    I am not aware of any legislation in that the Legislative branch is limited to determining the number of Justices serve on the SCOTUS.

    However, Stare decisis (Latin for “to stand by things decided”) is basically the concept of precedent applied to SCOTUS rulings

    When an issue has already been ruled on SCOTUS will usually defer to its previous decisions even if the soundness of the decision is in doubt.

    For the most part, the SCOTUS will invoke Stare decisis when the ruling dealt with the Constitution, or a statute that has been ruled to require strict scrutiny (the legislature must have passed the law to further a "compelling governmental interest," and must have narrowly tailored the law to achieve that interest).

    In such cases the SCOTUS will not hear nor overturn a previous ruling.
     
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    There you go again. Fidel Castro came to power by overthrowing the previous dictator. The first thing that he did was confiscate all guns possible and then he and Che and Raul began executing people left and right and they personally staffed the firing squads themselves. Che said that he like firing guns and murdering people. Raul is considered a bigger butcher than Fidel. Even the Russians called Raul the butcher. God may allow this but Nahum says that God is against this.
     
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    This is a strawman. I never said they could not overrule a previous decision. I said they cannot just say whatever they want, I said if they ruled that individules could not bear arms it would be wrong, Ive argued that doing such would cause a civil war. I have never argued that.
     
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    The court makes bad decisions. The two most infamous are probably Dred Scott and Roe v. Wade, as you know. Government is a necessary evil because of fallen human nature and total depravity, which I believe.
     
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    But not always - there have been over a dozen such decisions revisited and overruled.
     
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    My only point here is the law can be changed without the 2nd amendment being changed. Isn't this what you hope for with abortion - that the unborn would be recognized as having Constitutional rights?
     
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    On a Constitutional issue requiring close scrutiny?
     
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    On freedom of religion and requiring children to pledge the flag in public schools regardless of religious objection.
     
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    Is that a Constitutional issue regarding close scrutiny?
     
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    The 4th Ammendment is another (perhaps due to changing technology).
     
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    No more than banning guns.
     
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    Maybe a good compromise would be allowing only the types of guns and ammunition that existed when the second amendment was authored.
     
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    In other words you don't know.
     
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    Yes, and freedom of speech and the press should be limited to ink pots and quill pens. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    Yes, I don't know on that one. I know it was with the detaining of Japeneese in WW2, and perhaps with some of the 4th Amendment decisions.

    It wouldn't need to be in the case of the second amendment (It could be re-evaluated to interpret "militia" as "organized militia". The decision was, as you know, close).

    Or they could take our guns on our 45th birthday, when we are no longer part of the unorganized militia.
     
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    I knew we could find a compromise.
     
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    A gun that old would blow up in your face.
     
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    You just point it the other way. :Biggrin
     
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    NOW somebody tells me!
     
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    What if, what if, what if...

    How about

    What is, what is, what is...
     
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