From CNN.com...
"In the rare cases when the H1N1 virus kills, scientists have found, it penetrates deep into the lungs, creating widespread damage -- a pattern similar to what killed millions during previous flu pandemics in 1918 and 1957. The New York Office of Chief Medical Examiner examined medical records, autopsy reports and microscopic slides of 34 people with H1N1 who died between May 15 and July 9, 2009, during the early days of the pandemic. The report found that among those deaths, inflammation and damage in the lungs extended all the way to the alveoli, tiny sacs at the farthest end of the lungs' airways. "Generally, flu stays in the upper airways," said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. "What this shows is clearly this virus has capability of infecting and causing inflammation and destruction of cells from the trachea, all the way down into smaller cells of the lungs." (MORE)
H1N1's Damage Close Up
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Martin, Dec 8, 2009.
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I believe evidence shows that the vaccine is more dangerous than the phoney "pandemic."
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The H1N1a flu is serious stuff, when it kills. But it doesn't kill at any more of a rate than the common seasonal flu. It's a new form of influenza, and therefore worthy of attention. It's not, however, worthy of the hype that it has been given in the media. Its vaccine is likewise not worthy of the hype that antivax wingnuts have give it. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Even more evidence of H1N1's danger (HERE).
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As I fly very frequently with plane loads of people hacking and coughing into our shared air, I always get the seasonal flu shot. I also got the H1N1 vaccine as soon as it was widely available.
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A little off subject. I know little to nothing about flu shots. I have never had a flu shot and never had the flu, I have had colds. My parents of my knowledge never had a flu shot or the flue. None of my children while at home had the flu shot and only one time did one have what the doctor said was the flu.
My wife's family is about like mine, no flu shots, no flu.
I have friends who didn't get the shot and some got the flu, some didn't and friends who got the shot and some got flu like deals and some didn't.
I try and not take any medicine or pain killers, like at the dentist. I did take both when they put my fingers back together though. I know I could be called a little crazy about this, but I had a doctor when I was a child that said medicine taken for one thing, will do well but it also can do not so well on other things. I don't know if my family went with this because they couldn't afford it or because they believed it, and same question about my grandparents. I bought into it 100%. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
People tend to over medicate themselves, sometimes you just have to let things run their course. The H1N1 has not been what it was hyped to be.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Why is it irresponsible and disrespectful - the only others who would be effected would be those who didn't get the vaccine themselves.
Wouldn't it just be their own fault then? -
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Because if I contract it, I stand the chance of transmitting it to potentially hundreds of people in any given month. That can be avoided by me simply getting vaccinated. I'm simply being polite and courteous to others.
That's just me. I don't expect others to hold to my same standards, and don't judge another based on their own personal travel decisions to vacciante or not vaccinate. -
My wife said that I must have had them when I went over seas in the service. They gave us shot on top of shot on top of shot. Many of us got very sick. -
I did take you literally. Sorry about that. There have now been literally millions of H1N1 vaccines administered, and they've been shown to be quite effective (those vaccinated with H1N1a vaccine generally aren't getting the H1N1a virus). Supposed dangers have not materialized. Fortunately, the spread of the flu (both H1N1a and common seasonal flu) in the unvaccinated population has been relatively mild to date.
I'm not sure what you would have received in the service. Perhaps someone else who served can answer that.
As for claiming to not feel well after getting a shot, in order to kick off for the weekend early, I can't tell you how many times I've done it myself :wavey:. -
Because the person who got the vaccination didn't get the flu proves the shot prevented it? I have never had a flu shot and I have not had the flu in over 20 years.
The fact that a person who got the vaccination did not come down with the flu proves nothing whatsoever, unless that's what you WANT to believe. -
I'm not sure why you say that's ridiculous.