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HAMAS legalizes crucifixion

LadyEagle

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Both Iran and its Hamas proxy in Gaza have been busy this Christmas week showing Christendom just what they think of it. But no one seems to have noticed.

On Tuesday, Hamas legislators marked the Christmas season by passing a Shari'a criminal code for the Palestinian Authority. Among other things, it legalizes crucifixion.

Hamas's endorsement of nailing enemies of Islam to crosses came at the same time it renewed its jihad. Here, too, Hamas wanted to make sure that Christians didn't feel neglected as its fighters launched missiles at Jewish day care centers and schools. So on Wednesday, Hamas lobbed a mortar shell at the Erez crossing point into Israel just as a group of Gazan Christians were standing on line waiting to travel to Bethlehem for Christmas.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1230111707087&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
 

LeBuick

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windcatcher said:
These people are evil!

And some wish to bargain with the devil?????

Curious... What is the alternative to bargaining with them? They were elected to power by the very people we helped become a democracy. Now it's not just a militant group, it's a foreign government complete with flag and mortars.
 

Revmitchell

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LeBuick said:
Curious... What is the alternative to bargaining with them? They were elected to power by the very people we helped become a democracy. Now it's not just a militant group, it's a foreign government complete with flag and mortars.


Bargaining is not a realistic option. That has been tried over and over and when you give them great concessions it is never enough and they are always the ones to walk away from the table. They want Israel gone and that is the single and only concession they will accept. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delluded.
 

hillclimber1

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LeBuick said:
Curious... What is the alternative to bargaining with them? They were elected to power by the very people we helped become a democracy. Now it's not just a militant group, it's a foreign government complete with flag and mortars.

Shock and awe. The knowledge that this kind of activity WILL result in resolute, decisive destruction, every time, is the only fix, IMO. But will that be tried?
 

KenH

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hillclimber1 said:
Shock and awe.

Won't work unless Israel is willing to occupy Gaza and the West Bank with tens of thousands of troops and suffer the ongoing casualties that would come with decades of occupation. A war cannot be won without boots on the ground. Everyone should have learned that lesson in Iraq.
 

Marcia

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Someone posted this info on a list I'm on:

It should be mentioned, of course, that crucifixion as an optional method
of execution is legal wherever Sharia law is in force, since the Koran
specifies it (Sura 5:33) for enemies of Islam.

The English language articles that can be found by Googling "Hamas
crucifixion" are mainly opinion pieces that emphasize this particular
implication of Hamas reportedly voting this week to adopt Sharia law.
But this is not really new in the Arab world. News reports in 2003 told
of a Scottsman who was scheduled to be crucified under Sharia law in
Saudi Arabia, but who was set free through efforts of the British
government. (
http://news.scotsman.com/sharialaw/I-faced-crucifixion-claims-Scot.2459468.jp )
 

tinytim

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LeBuick said:
Curious... What is the alternative to bargaining with them? They were elected to power by the very people we helped become a democracy. Now it's not just a militant group, it's a foreign government complete with flag and mortars.

Just what Israel is doing.. KILL EM!
 

rbell

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LeBuick said:
Curious... What is the alternative to bargaining with them? They were elected to power by the very people we helped become a democracy. Now it's not just a militant group, it's a foreign government complete with flag and mortars.

One...where is it written we can't change policies towards a country? If they degrade, then we have every right to switch from friend to foe.

Two...since when did bargaining with terrorists ever become productive?

This situation is indeed difficult. But I'd rather have an alliance with Israel in this situation than bother negotiating with these cretins.
 

LeBuick

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rbell said:
One...where is it written we can't change policies towards a country? If they degrade, then we have every right to switch from friend to foe.

I agree, friends can become foe.

rbell said:
Two...since when did bargaining with terrorists ever become productive?

This situation is indeed difficult. But I'd rather have an alliance with Israel in this situation than bother negotiating with these cretins.

1. I don't find harm in listening to them. There is a big difference between listening and bargaining.

2. Our military is stretched beyond its means as it is, we're going to have to exercise some political strategy since military options would break our military backs and would probably bring Iran and a few other Muslim countries into the fight.

This is one of the things this prolonged Iraq invasion has caused, militarily was are overstretched and I see the draft in our future.
 

Revmitchell

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LeBuick said:
1. I don't find harm in listening to them. There is a big difference between listening and bargaining.


Well while you are at it cover your neck lest the slit your throat while you are listening. How many reporters end up captured and imprisoned while they were "listening"?
 

saturneptune

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windcatcher said:
These people are evil!

And some wish to bargain with the devil?????
You are correct. Democrats and Republicans continue to pour billions of our tax dollars trying to bring peace to nations and groups of people that will be fighting until the end of time.
 

saturneptune

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hillclimber1 said:
Shock and awe. The knowledge that this kind of activity WILL result in resolute, decisive destruction, every time, is the only fix, IMO. But will that be tried?
That is all Hamas understands. However, it should be Israel's shock and awe, not ours.
 

saturneptune

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KenH said:
Won't work unless Israel is willing to occupy Gaza and the West Bank with tens of thousands of troops and suffer the ongoing casualties that would come with decades of occupation. A war cannot be won without boots on the ground. Everyone should have learned that lesson in Iraq.
There were boots on the ground in Vietnam. It takes more. If one is going to war, then go to war to win, quickly, decisively, and exit. One would think that after Vietnam and now Iraq we would learn. If you are going to half fight and linger, dont bother.
 

billwald

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Most everyone in the world knew when WW1 was over. Everyone know when the Big War in Europe was over. Most everyone knew when Japan surrendered.

Since then? The Korean War has been going on for 50+ years. The US got kicked out of VietNam. When's the last time a war was won . . . by anyone . . . since VietNam? How will Israel know when their war is over? When Jesus returns?
 

LeBuick

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saturneptune said:
You are correct. Democrats and Republicans continue to pour billions of our tax dollars trying to bring peace to nations and groups of people that will be fighting until the end of time.

AMEN to that, if it wasn't for the oil they have I believe we could just let them go at each other. It doesn't make sense getting in a family squabble...
 

Revmitchell

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LeBuick said:
Well, the GOP foreign policy of ignoring them has got us this far, if one cut throat will make them happy, I volunteer you... That way you can do your part without listening... ;)


So let me get this straight. You advocate the slitting of my throat?


More false claims of doing nothing from you I see.
 
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