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Hate Crimes - constitutional?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Salty, Jun 5, 2009.

  1. Salty

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    I believe hate crimes / hate laws to be unconstitutional because they judge people according to the way they think, believe, & feel prior to the crime being committed. How a perosn feels when they commit a crime is irrelevant.

    If a known racist were to get into physical altercation with a person of another race & he didn't clearly start the problem, this would be used against him. While it is morally wrong for one to be a racist, it is not illegal.
     
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    We already have crimes on the books against all kinds of crimes. "Hate crimes" is one more way the libbies seek to destroy freedom and advance their evil personal agenda. Too bad the "hate" towards unborn doesn't count. Sad.
     
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    The individual was found guilty - including the "hate" crime.

    Also our DA boasts he was a driving force in getting this law pass in NY State
     
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    Agree. On the other hand, "intent" is a major component of the definition of a crime. Maybe hating someone is a factor in determining one's intent.
     
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    Sorry, it's a repost of my earlier thoughts, but:

     
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    So, should we attempt to repeal hate crimes?
     
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    Salty...please stop. Why do you do this every week or so? Yes, I mean the dredging up of posts from months ago. You just dredged up 10 or 12 posts from March of this year. It's horrible forum ettiquette.
     
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    Well, I could re-post all of them -
    I just bring up some interesting ones
     
  10. Robert Snow

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    If you don't like a thread, don't read or respond to it. It really isn't that difficult.

    I have never understood "hate-crime legislation." For example, why does it matter why someone kills someone? It's the action that is the problem. I guess a person is supposed to feel better being murdered by someone who is merely robbing them as opposed to someone who kills them because they hate them.
     
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    Even having "hate crimes" make a mockery of our constitution and country.

    Having "thought police" is next, right?
     
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    This goes to motive, which is one of the pillars required for conviction in our legal system.

    I will agree, though, that to use the "motive" as a basis for making the punishment harsher is Unconstitutional.

    The crime is the crime.

    But, the PC Thought police want to get in our heads and squelch thoughts *they* feel are non-PC.

    When you can jail a pastor for preaching:

    Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    It's time for pitchforks, large cauldrons of tar and a genrous helping of feathers!
     
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