....see who he is and why he called them out:http://churchismessy.com/2013/08/05/why-i-called-out-joel-osteen-and-joyce-meyer/
He CALLED OUT Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyer...
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by righteousdude2, Aug 17, 2013.
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Yes....he did the right thing!
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His reasons were right on, but he should have done this privately!
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No, I thought he was inappropriate for bashing another who loves Jesus!
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No, I fully despise this kind of public grandstanding!
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No opinion. However, I liked the article!
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No opinion either way!
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Here's my thoughts on Prosperity Teaching, especially Osteen and Meyers!!
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Rick has some valid points and some errors [explain]...
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It takes guts to call out people of these public stature.
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We need to let those of other doctrines/theologies alone!
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works: Of whom be thou ware also; for he hath greatly withstood our words.
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Osteen does not believe in the exclusivity of Jesus. He refuses to say that Jesus is the only way.
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I just listened to him once & labeled him a pitch man like so many profiting from the insecurity of others. -
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These people are despicable and need to be exposed for the evil that they are. -
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Joel Osteen's Candy Store theology is appealing to the willfully ignorant. Problem is what happens when all you eat is candy? You get diabetes! And when you get just "half" a gospel...it stops becoming the gospel all together.
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Earth, would love to see Obama's face on that banjo-strummin' NAZI.
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Lets consider some of the "false doctrines" used to skewer Meyer.
2) Did Jesus go to Hades spiritually? Lots of theories exist to explain 1 Peter 3:19 but some believe Jesus preached to the OT Saints in Abraham's bosom, before He led the captives captive, Ephesians 4:8.
3) Did Jesus pay for our sins in Hades? No, this is clearly mistaken doctrine. He did pay for our sins, but when He said "it is finished" and died, the work of the cross, the full payment, had been completed. He became the propitiation or means of salvation for all mankind, the whole world.
4) Do words have spiritual power that can be unleashed by us using those words? No. The gospel of Christ has power, it is the power of God to salvation. The verse that talks about what the disciples bound on earth, is not understood by many correctly. What it speaks of is the power of being in the will of God.
5) Scripture teaches that some spiritual things cannot be discerned unless a person is indwelt with the Holy Spirit, but once the foundation of the gospel had been laid by Jesus and His disciples (including Paul) no one can add. The gift of speaking as the mouthpiece of God ended, at least for the present, in the 1st century.
6) Born anew believers continue to think and act sinfully, and if we say we do not we are liars, but once washed with His blood, we are blameless and holy in the eyes of God. -
I am a banjo player and I am good ..see my sig... but I aint no nazi!! :wavey: -
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But now BO strumming something.... that could be funny (and make me an IRS target) :laugh: -
good thing paul went to address peter being swayed by PC, eh? -
I've watched ole Joel a few times. The comment about selling a Genie in a bottle is correct IMO. It's always about how god is gonna do this and that for you and your gonna get rich.
Becoming a follower of Christ means hardship. Bearing your cross. The world will hate you because of me. I don't recall any messages from Christ about how God will make you rich by pleasing him. Easier for a camel to go thru the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to heaven.
This guy is simply stuffing his pockets by selling a magic genie in a bottle -
once she held to jesus died a sinner, ceased being God, had to get born again etc...
Doctrines of Demons, also held by the Hagins./Copelands/Hinns of her ilk! -
I am dealing with a radical Meyerite presently. Henderson's article is superb. My Meyerite friend gives me 15 minute lectures just like Joyce would! Anyone critizing these two are in for a lot of heat from their adherents, especially from the Meyerites.
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Either way, they need to come out from under those false teachers!