Was this meant to be sarcastic?
Or funny?
What?
Consider; Psalm 138:1-2
I will praise thee with my whole heart: before the gods will I sing praise unto thee.
I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy WORD above all thy name.
His word ABOVE his name?
"things that make you go hmmm...."
In His service;
Jim
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by mcgyver, Nov 19, 2004.
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I received my complete Holman Bible today. ...bought it on ebay. Couldn't beat the price, $5.00.
It is the hardback and the cover binding is broken, but I still have the complete Bible now.
(I only had the New Testaments they were selling at about $2.50 to get people to try it.)
Now, I have a chance to look at the entire Bible.
I know Ed likes it.
There is just something about the NIV that I don't feel comfortable with. I cannot put my finger on it, but The HCSB seems to be about as easy to read. So, we shall see. I will report my opinions of it after a little reading. -
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Originally posted by Ed Edwards:
I'd rather magnify the Lord
than to magnify the Lord's written word
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av1611jim: "Was this meant to be sarcastic?
Or funny?
What?"
Funny. (the smiley face was
the clue)
I restate for the humor impaired
I'd rather magnify the Lord
than to use a magnifying glass
on the Lord's written word -
I thought Jesus was the Word.
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I posted this after page one. Sorry.
Good point, Ed. Some Bibles have such small print! -
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I said I would report my thoughts on the Holman after reading some of the Old Testament:
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Genesis 1:1 HCSB.
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The HCSB is the Written Word (rhema) of God.
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CBS: "I would call the Holman Christian Standard Bible a better than average paraphrase that might possibly be suitable for some Bible games, but certainly not for Bible study."
While not going that far, I will acknowledge that I have not been favorably impressed by much of the HCSB, since my main concern is with the underlying Greek text and their interpretation of such.
The fact that the HCSB at several places chooses to render IDOU as "Listen!" is a point in particular, since the EIDON/ORAW root clearly relates to seeing, and elsewhere the HCSB has no problem rendering it "Behold!", "Look!", or "See!".
The kicker comes when the HCSB accurately renders AKOUETE as "Listen!", thus making Jesus use two different and distinct Greek terms in his own speech rendered into identical English and thus misleading the English-only reader. -
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I really like it. I bought it in March when the whole thing first came out. It has become my main translation. I used to be a NASB guy. I also used the NIV too. So I guess I am the target market for the Holman. I Like the foot notes and bullet notes, so that when it does go "DE" I can generaly find out what the "FE" is,with out picking up a copy the NASB. I also like that it usually puts traditional verses from the TR such as Acts 8:37 in the text, but brakets it and foot notes that it is not in the earlier manuscripts, I wish it did it at IJn. 5:7.
The thing I dislike most about the HCSB is it's use of Messiah in the New Testament. Other than Jn.1:41 and 4:25 this should not be done. I don't know Greek. But this Messiah thing in the New Testament seems to be a stupid sales gimmick.
I am also not extremly comfortable with my denomination having it's own translation like the RC's and JW's. But it is better than our 3 million worth of SBC annual tithes going to Zondervan for the NIV.
I like to say that HCSB stands for Highly Controlled by Southern Baptist. :D
But there are negatives and draw backs whith all translations, However I really like the HCSB.
EagleWing
P.S. Hey Ed! I also have that red hardback of the Holman. You should put a slip cover on yours, one with a pocket or you can use the flap that slips over the back cover as a pocket. Then do a Google search for Biblical maps. Print them out and keep them in the pocket of the cover on your Holman. :cool: -
The following verses prove that the HCSB is not a "Baptist Bible."
ECCL 3:4 a time to weep and a time to laugh; a time to mourn and a time to dance ;
PS. 149:3 Let them praise His name with dancing and make music to Him with tambourine and lyre.
SOS 5:1 I have come to my garden my sister, my bride. I gather my myrrh with my spices. I eat my honeycomb with my honey. I drink my wine with my milk. Eat, friends! Drink, be intoxicated with love!
IS 1:22 Your silver has become dross, your beer is diluted with water.
1 Tim 5:23 Don't continue drinking only water, but use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.
(emphasis mine)
These verses and many others found in the HCSB prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Holman is NOT a Baptist Bible.
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Dancing? Drinking?
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Thanks to everyone for the often humorous/thought provoking answers to my question. From what I've read (Entire NT and the Pentatuch), it does't seem to be a bad translation. I am in agreement that some of the wording is "flat".
Would have posted sooner, but was flat on my back with the flu...... -
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