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How Did Jesus Do It?
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Jan 17, 2021.
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I'm on your side of this particular debate B.T.W. Van, so........that's a thing, I guess. -
Hebrews 5:8
Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered.
I guess we will need to nullify this verse, since some claim it was impossible to be unfaithful. Oh well....
Then let us rewrite Romans 5:19:
For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.
Naw, Christ was unable not to obey, so His lifelong accomplishment should not be used as our model.
Folks, Christ chose to go to the cross and die a horrible death for us. We should not make light of the Lamb of God, who was holy and sinless through lifelong obedience to His Father. -
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learned obedience (εμαθεν υπακοην). Second aorist active indicative of μανθανω
“acquire a habit of, and in past tenses, to be accustomed” (Liddell & Scott);
“to be in the habit of, accustomed to” (Thayer);
“acquire the habit of, be accustomed to” (Abbott-Smith)
“learn, appropriate to oneself less through instruction than through experience or practice: εμαθεν αφ ων επαθεν την υπακοην he learned obedience through what he suffered Hb 5:8” (Ardnt & Gingrich) -
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What price did Jesus pay for His obedience? If He was unable to disobey, whatever the supposed price
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A very specific, obedience. relative to what he feared.
I do not believe it had a thing in the world to do with, habit. -
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through being a Son, did learn by the things which he suffered -- the obedience, Heb 5: 7,8
and in fashion having been found as a man, he humbled himself, having become obedient unto death -- death even of a cross, Phil 2:8
Does, did learn by the things which he suffered, show how the following took place, having become obedient unto death?
Is that not the very purpose of ? John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and did tabernacle among us, and we beheld his glory, glory as of an only begotten of a father, full of grace and truth.
I Am that I Am, tell them I Am sent me
I Will Be Who I Will Be, tell them I Will Be sent me
'Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah; Duet 6:4
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, 'Verily, verily, I say to you, Before Abraham's coming -- I am;'
John 1:14
Paul, an apostle -- not from men, nor through man, but through Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who did raise him out of the dead -- Gal 1:1
In many parts, and many ways, God of old having spoken to the fathers in the prophets, in these last days did speak to us in a Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He did make the ages; Heb 1:1,2
John 1:14
He appointed heir ????? Heir? Did learn, the obedience. Obedience of what/whom? -
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