How Jesus Dressed

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Originally posted by Kathy &lt;&gt;&lt;: What EXACTLY did Jesus and other men of his time wear?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry Kathy that I wasn’t addressing this question the first time I posted here, but I couldn’t resist picking up the humorous side of this thread (see above). Talking about humor, you should know, for you are one the BB’s resident humorist – for it takes one to know one (hence your collection of funny nuggets on several threads now). Keep up the good work.

Now, we really do not know exactly what the folks wore in Bible times because there are no old timers around here at BaptistBoard.com. Unless we think of Dr. Bob! :D However, we can speculate, guess, and anybody’s guess is as good as yours. According to a Bible Encyclopedia (it will remain unnamed for now), our knowledge of the kind of clothing worn by the people of Bible times comes from Scriptural statements; from representations of the people and their clothing we find on monuments, reliefs, seals, plaques, tomb-paintings, and from graves & tomb remains. Hence the basic garments in general use among the men of Biblical times (including the time of Jesus), seem to have consisted of the inner-tunic, the tunic-coat, the girdle, and the cloak. Added to this was the head-dress, and the shoes or sandals. Is this what you were looking for, or you’d like to have chapters and verses?

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HankD:
You are talking to someone with Italian grandparents on both sides who were wine makers.

I have made wine in ALL kinds of weather (years ago of course) with the desired results.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I have been making wine for over 35 years. Too hot = vinegar. Cool = alcohol.

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lorelei:
Is there something I am missing here? Does modest apparel actually interpreted mean "hanging robe"? I have never heard that one before.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The Greek word translated "apparel" in 1 Timothy 2:9 is the word "katastolh" - it is a construct, two words stuck together to form one word, similar to railroad, baseball, etc. The words "kata" and "stole" respectively mean "down from" and "robe." The verb form can be tranlated "let down" "hanging" or "long" so the literal English transation could be "long robe" or "hanging robe" or something similar.

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HankD:
Hmm, what does "shamefacedness" mean.
I don't have access to any greek texts at the moement, but the English seems to imply a look of shame upon the face.

HankD<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Greek "aidos," a sense of shame or honour, modesty, bashfulness, reverence, regard for others, respect.

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dr. Bob Griffin:
Thanks a LOT, Old Man of the BB! I believe your birth pre-dates mine by a decade!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I din't think you've noticed! ;)

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by B. J. Halo:
Sorry Kathy that I wasn’t addressing this question the first time I posted here, but I couldn’t resist picking up the humorous side of this thread (see above). Talking about humor, you should know, for you are one the BB’s resident humorist – for it takes one to know one (hence your collection of funny nuggets on several threads now). Keep up the good work.

Now, we really do not know exactly what the folks wore in Bible times because there are no old timers around here at BaptistBoard.com. Unless we think of Dr. Bob! :D However, we can speculate, guess, and anybody’s guess is as good as yours. According to a Bible Encyclopedia (it will remain unnamed for now), our knowledge of the kind of clothing worn by the people of Bible times comes from Scriptural statements; from representations of the people and their clothing we find on monuments, reliefs, seals, plaques, tomb-paintings, and from graves & tomb remains. Hence the basic garments in general use among the men of Biblical times (including the time of Jesus), seem to have consisted of the inner-tunic, the tunic-coat, the girdle, and the cloak. Added to this was the head-dress, and the shoes or sandals. Is this what you were looking for, or you’d like to have chapters and verses? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you Bro. Halo! Yes, this helps...but does your un-named Biblical Encyclopedia include what women wore? Just curious.

Also, what if those interpreting the scripture are wrong about women wearing dresses? So what...what does it hurt for a woman to wear a dress? Don't men like when women wear dresses and skirts? Don't women feel prettier when they have on a skirt or a dress? I know I do. I'm not trying to make anyone angry, especially women who wear pants and shorts...heck, I wore shorts and pants in public until about a week ago! :eek: LoL I do disagree with a church having a RULE or REGULATION requiring women to wear only skirts and dresses...that goes without saying...I have just decided for myself to wear only skirts and dresses and my husband seems to like it...but what I have learned here is that I won't use scripture to back up my choice, I will simply say that I have chosen to dress this way of my own free will, which just so happens to be true!

Thanks!
Kathy
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P.S. ;) for Bro Halo! LoL

[ September 06, 2001: Message edited by: Kathy ]

 

Kathy, thanks for the ;) In replying to your question, when it involves women's dressing, I always like to quote 1 Timothy 2:9-10, where it says:

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>In like manner also, that woman adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A lot of people use this text to restrict the use of jewelry, but the verse doesn't say that. It is talking about adorning the woman's body with those things that really makes her beautiful - the cultivation of the inner self. Now when it comes to women’s gears, the (un-named) Bible Encyclopedia states that:

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Among the Hebrews neither sex was permitted by Mosaic law to wear the same form of clothing as was used by the other (Deut. 22:5). A few articles of female clothing carried somewhat the same name and basic pattern, yet there was always sufficient difference in embossing, embroidery, and needlework so that in appearance the line of demarcation between men and women could readily detected.

The women wore long garments reaching almost to the feet, with a girdle of silk or wool, many times having all the colors of the rainbow. Often such a garment would have a fringe hanging from the waist nearly to the ankles.

The ladies head-dress, for example, usually included some kind of a keffiyeh or cloth for covering the head, yet the material that was in that covering was of a different quality, kind, or color from that worn by the men. And, also, it was frequently pinned over some kind of a cap made of stiff material and set with pearls, silver, gold, or spangled ornaments common to that day. If a woman was married, these or other more significant coins covered the entire front of her cap and constituted her dowry. Her under garments would be made of material such as cotton, linen, or silk, as might befit her wealth or station in life. She would probably wear a long skirt with long, pointed sleeves. Over this was a small rather tightly-fitting jacket or “petticoat” – meaning little coat. The small jacket would be made of “scarlet” or other good material and was a thing of exquisite beauty because of its being covered with “tapestry” or fine needlework, wrought with multi-colored threads. A woman of even moderate circumstances could have beautiful clothing, for it was “the fruit of her own hands” (Proverbs 31:19).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hope this will help you distinguish between the sexes! ;) But humor aside, I admire your decision to dress like a lady of 1 Timothy 2:9-10. God bless.

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kathy:

So what...what does it hurt for a woman to wear a dress? Don't men like when women wear dresses and skirts? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm partial to women in blue jeans myself, but I've always thought women looked best in comfortable clothes. I know that my wife prefers blue jeans and slacks.

In general, though, I don't think it hurts anything for a woman to wear a skirt. I just thing it's very poor exegesis to say that the Bible says women shouldn't wear pants (or that Celts shouldn't wear kilts).

Joshua

 

&gt;&gt;I have been making wine for over 35 years. Too hot = vinegar. Cool = alcohol. &gt;&gt;

1) A Baptist wine maker!?

2) Fifty years for me Ive never made a batch of vinegar except when I wanted to do so. You need mother-of-vinegar culture.
We made that from the wine skins.

HankD

 

Mr. Cassidy & Hank D,
I'll be glad to settle for you who has the best wine knowledge. Each of you send me a bottle er I mean case of your most recent vintage and I will do a blind test to see which of yall is the official Baptist Board sommelier.
I'm partial to California Reds myself.
Russell

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CJoshuaV:
I'm partial to women in blue jeans myself, but I've always thought women looked best in comfortable clothes. I know that my wife prefers blue jeans and slacks.

In general, though, I don't think it hurts anything for a woman to wear a skirt. I just thing it's very poor exegesis to say that the Bible says women shouldn't wear pants (or that Celts shouldn't wear kilts).

Joshua<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey great! My husband likes the dresses and the skirts, so I aim to please him...but I think I also said that I have learned a lesson here and from now on when asked I will simply say it was by choice...I don't think that is poor exegesis. :D

Kathy
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Obviously the temperature can be controlled in any climate and it is highly recommended, in order to achieve proper fermentation. However, if the grapejuice is left in a warm area, Dr. Cassidy's projection is on target.

And for the Baptists on this board, no, I am not a winebibber, nor a winemaker, but I read enough about the subject. :D

 

&gt;&gt;Each of you send me a bottle...&gt;&gt;

Oh, I don't do that any more...




HankD

 

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kathy:


Hey great! My husband likes the dresses and the skirts, so I aim to please him...but I think I also said that I have learned a lesson here and from now on when asked I will simply say it was by choice...I don't think that is poor exegesis. :D

Kathy
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Nope, not poor exegesis at all. ;) I wasn't criticizing your statement. :D

Joshua

 

I just want to ask, what about all the references to 'girding your loins', Kind proving that they did wear robes and for them to do any type of running or walking really fast, they would have to gird them, or tie them up past their knees.
Bye the way, for all those people to have got drunk off the wine that Jesus made, would make Jesus a sinner, by Him letting them get drunk off of His Miracle! I dont think so. I can recommend an excelent book that is biblicle as to why wine of biblicle time was not alchohalic.

 

Go ahead, recommend it. Title of book, author, etc.

 

Good points, McGahhey! My pastor has often preached/taught along those same thoughts. Would Jesus violate His own word?

(Prov 20:1 KJV) Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

 

&lt; I can recommend an excelent book that is biblicle as to why wine of biblicle time was not alchohalic. &gt;

Exactly how is *nonalcoholic* wine a "mocker?"

[ September 07, 2001: Message edited by: Rockfort ]