Featured How much more influence do you think Luther has been than Jesus?

has Not God used the teachings of a calvin, luther, spurgeon, moody etc, so its really Jesus in ultimate sense!

 

Aren't all Christian authors really included under Jesus influence anyways?

 

You would still see it as still future, correct?

 

So second coming yet to happen?

 

Think it started with Jesus!

 

Yes, and comparing Luther to Jesus is stupid.

 

The new Covenant did not start until Calvary!

 

? Saving Faith ?

and in fashion having been found as a man, he humbled himself, having become obedient unto death -- death even of a cross, Phil 2:8 YLT

through being a Son, did learn by the things which he suffered -- the obedience, Heb 5:8

Who in the days of his flesh, having offered up both supplications and entreaties to him who was able to save him out of death, with strong crying and tears; (and having been heard because of his piety; Heb 5:7 DBY

Was, having become obedient, the obedience of faith, of Jesus the Son of God, toward the Father to save him out of death?

Is it not through that same, obedience of faith, through which we received the Spirit? Being saved out of death? Consider:
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away [in death]: for if I go not away [in death], the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart [in death], I will send him unto you.
Gal 3:14 YLT that to the nations the blessing of Abraham may come in Christ Jesus, that the promise of the Spirit we may receive through the faith. --- Jesus going away in death and the Father raising him out of the dead.

Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
1 Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Did, because of the preeminence, Jesus the firstborn out of the dead ones, inherit the grace of Life, eternal? Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

 

No. In John 16:7-11 He was speaking of His ascension.

 

We finely get to use the following verse in proper context. Prophecy and fulfillment.

From Col 1:18 YLT that he might become in all things -- himself -- first,

Psalms 68:18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them.
Why?
wherefore, he saith, 'Having gone up on high he led captive captivity, and gave gifts to men,' -- and that, he went up, what is it except that he also went down first to the lower parts of the earth? he who went down is the same also who went up far above all the heavens, that He may fill all things -- Eph 4:8-10
Why?
and in fashion having been found as a man, he humbled himself, having become obedient unto death -- death even of a cross, wherefore, also, God did highly exalt him, and gave to him a name that is above every name, Phil 2:8,9

Acts 2:32,33 YLT 'This Jesus did God raise up,[out of the dead ones] of which we are all witnesses; at the right hand then of God having been exalted -- also the promise of the Holy Spirit having received from the Father [received gifts for men] -- he was shedding forth this,[Gave gifts to men] which now ye see and hear;

From Col 1:18 YLT that he might become in all things -- himself -- first,
BTW Titus 3:5,6 says the same thing as Acts 2:32,33

 

Which is about His resurrection, Romans 1:4, Romans 8:29, Colossians 1:18 - He being the beginning of the New Heaven and Earth to come, Revelation 3:14 - Romans 8:23 - Revelation 21:1 - 1 Corinthians 15:28.

 

Why compare a lying anti-semite with THE TRUTH?

[Gen 12:3 KJV] 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Martin Luther: "Of Jews and their lies."

"I had made up my mind to write no more either about the Jews or against them. But since I learned that those miserable and accursed people do not cease to lure to themselves even us, that is, the Christians, I have published this little book, so that I might be found among those who opposed such poisonous activities of the Jews and who warned the Christians to be on their guard against them. I would not have believed that a Christian could be duped by the Jews into taking their exile and wretchedness upon himself. However, the devil is the god of the world, and wherever God's word is absent he has an easy task, not only with the weak but also with the strong. May God help us. Amen."

“First, that their synagogues be burned down…”
“Second, that all their books their prayer books, their Talmudic writings, also the entire Bible, be taken from them…”
“Third, that they be forbidden on pain of death…”
“Fourth, that they be forbidden to utter the name of God within our hearing.”

http://scholarship.rollins.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1019&context=mls
Rollins College Rollins Scholarship Online Master of Liberal Studies Theses 2012 Luther and Hitler: A Linear Connection between Martin Luther and Adolf Hitler ’s Anti-Semitism with a Nationalistic Foundation Daphne M. Olsen Rollins College, [email protected]