How Strongly Do You Hold to Your Doctrinal Beliefs?

Actually, John tells us that Jesus makes His father known, and those who His reveals God to are the very elect of God!

 

Where do you get the word yet?

 

Without citing a verse your assertions seem to lack support. John tells us Jesus makes His Father known, but does not limit His revelation to just Jews, or just those chosen, but to all mankind. John 1:9

 

Now where do folks get the words they add to the text? Do the words alter the message? Then out of their presumptions. Does the word simply clarify the message. Then out of God's truth.

 

Jesus stated that all the father gives to Him shall be saved, and he will reveal them to his Father, is that all sinners then?

 

All sinners given to Jesus by the Father will arrive within Christ, and those believing sinners shall be made righteous and never cast out, thus eternally saved.

All sinners not given to Jesus by the Father will suffer eternal punishment in Hades and Gehenna.

 

You are close to being a Calvinist if you really understand what you posted here!

 

So you added it in to prop up your interpretation of the text? Isn't that exactly what you accuse the other side of doing (despite theirs is within semantic range)?

 

You have no clue as to what scripture teaches, such as Calvinism is bogus.

 

Now where do folks get the words they add to the text? Do the words alter the message? Then out of their presumptions. Does the word simply clarify the message. Then out of God's truth.

 

Why do you always repeat yourself? Do you have a problem?

 

Why do your posts address the poster and not the postion?
Clue - this is a post that makes two statements about adding words to the text.
Now where do folks get the words they add to the text? Do the words alter the message? Then out of their presumptions. Does the word simply clarify the message. Then out of God's truth.

 

Yes, the word "yet" actuall does alter the message.

 

You can shout black is actually white till the cows come home, it will not alter the truth.

 

You put the word yet in there, yet you do not actually show your support for inserting it in there other than your theological ideology.

 

Guess Jesus and Paul had bogus theology then!

 

Since when did Jesus and Paul push your bogus doctrine? Never!

 

Romans and Gospel of John?

 

Did not God choose those poor according to mankind, yet rich in faith and heirs to the kingdom promised to those who love God. Obviously James 2:5 teaches conditional election unless altered by inserting "to be."

 

God chose us as His own based upon his love and will, period, not based upon us having faith , loving God etc!