Thank you Paul for reminding me (and everyone else) of this fact.
Humanism of arminianism
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Jarthur001, Jan 16, 2011.
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Well if this be true, shame on me. This this be false, shame on you for saying such things.
Is this not what I said?
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Its teeter totter theology. When you left up man, you pull down God. Man has a will...man has a will...man is the one that choses.....man controls his own outcome....God cannot over take mans desire......God cannot.....MAN MAN MAN... -
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Minks classic work goes on...
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BTW, how can it be explained that in putting man in the proper place by giving him free will, does not demean God, rather it puts God in the place where He is even more glorious. God can both give man a free will and then use all man's choices to bring about what He wants to happen. This shows another attribute of the greatness of our God's grace! -
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Calvin's chronology and Moses' chronology:
Calvin's Commentary:
Jacob did not kiss Rachel till he had informed her that he was her relative
Genesis 29:11-12a
Then Jacob kissed Rachel and wept aloud. And Jacob told Rachel that he was her father's kinsman
So, which chronology do these Calvinists follow?:
Thomas Whitelaw's Exposition of Genesis:
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pinoybaptist Active MemberSite Supporter
I will go for Moses' chronology.
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This is what you said..
You know what.....
Paul if you desire to talk about Calvinism vs Arminianism, please start a thread and give me your best argument. I'll be there. Don't use some 2nd rate argument. I want your best.
I look forward to it, and if you want, send me a message when you have it up and running.
How about foreknowledge? That is the power in your system. If you want, lets talk about foreknowledge. That would be a good one. As I said, I don't think you know what you believe. So tell me why foreknowledge is better. :) On another thread please.
Or...you pick your best. Now come with Scripture support. :)
Have a good day by new found friend.
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Mink says more...
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What do you mean? What event were you talking of? Which year?
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I believe the only logically consistent view of a Calvinist is to conclude that all those who remain non-Calvinists are not really saved.
How else do you explain how God's regenerating Spirit can bring a lost man to understand the gospel, but somehow fail in bringing him the rest of the way to a correct knowledge of basic soteriology?
Why is one believer Calvinistic while another is not? Is it something "good" within the man that makes him smarter, more humble, more accepting of the "truth?" Clearly, the only logically consistent response is to say that God is the determiner of who does and doesn't accept these doctrines as truth, right? And why would God deprive his child of the ability to willingly accept the truth of their salvation? Thus the only really consistent answer is to conclude that those who reject Calvinistic doctrine aren't really children of God. Where am I wrong on this? -
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I do not deny you questioned my salvation, I'm asking which time are you talking about that you said please forgive me? Because I don't remember that forgiveness part at any time. This year or any year before.
I could be wrong, but I never remember you saying you were wrong and asking forgiveness. This is why I said, if you want to prove me wrong, and I could be wrong, just post your reply showing you said I'm sorry.
All I can remember at this point is you saying people misunderstand you.
Now Web....Don't feel like you must do this. I'm fine with how you feel about others. But if you feel better about it, go ahead and show the post. I will gladly admit I was wrong, and ask you to forgive me. -
now back to the subject
It would be good to hear an Arminian address these...
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