My secretary had a lady tell her this today. She wants a church where she can bring her kids, but where she won't have to serve in any way. After thinking about this, I realized that we have many who fit that same description already!!
Any folks like that in your church?
"I want a church where I don't have to do anything."
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by SBCPreacher, Mar 17, 2009.
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SBCPreacher Active MemberSite Supporter
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They're in every church.
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You mean that I'm expected to serve in my church? Isn't that the pastor's job? Don't we pay him to do all the work?
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Honestly, if you don't want to put anything into church, you won't get anything out of church.
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My favorite is when people ask what our church has to offer them and their kids. I really want to ask them what they have to offer us, like will they pray for us, show up for services excited instead of looking half dead, praise and encourage instead of complain and gossip. 'Course, if I asked that I'd probably get in trouble.:saint: -
We pay the Pastor 15k a year and he still expects us to do things? Utter nonsense!
I'm starting to believe preachers may just be too lazy. Maybe we need to lower their pay a bit if they expect us to do their job. -
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I confess I've felt that way before. I teach Sunday School, VBS, children's choir, serve as the church pianist, am constantly on one committee or another, am the church librarian, and a host of other minor things.
I've been overwhelmed many times and wished countless times that I didn't have anything to do at my church except to just show up and listen to the preaching. I wish that I could just walk in at 1 minute 'til the service starts, pick a quiet pew, and just sit and soak it all in.
But, it don't work that way, does it.
I'm grateful to serve and I get a joy from it, but get burnt out sometimes.
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Sometimes the best thing we can learn is to say, "No!"
I could appreciate someone being upfront about not wanting to do anything. That leaves me half way there to reaching them.
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I hope my pastor doesnt read this,,,,he'll want a raise up to $15,000 too!
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I never put the pastoral role on a secular basis, and hence never received a "salary". Any monies given to me was an honourarium to cover expenses for living and ministry.
With my education, I could earn for more money than any church could or would offer!
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I have found that sometimes at smaller churches, that they seem to only trust that same core group of people to handle "important" things. They are very dedicated in fact impressively so, but sometimes I think they lack the ability to let go and delegate to others. -
20% of your members do 80% of the work to be done, while 80% of your members wait to be waited on. Its sad but true.
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How about the people who drop the kids off and keep going...
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They are everywhere. But God however, may want us to serve, to a certain extent. Doesn't have to be in the front or, like a pastor or youth minister. It can be, behind the scenes.
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Lining up with Scarlett.
There was one point where I felt like I had volunteered my life away to the church. I actually stopped going for a short while. (very short - but I was so burned out, I just couldn't go.) That was when I decided I'd do one thing long term and the occasional short term project. It is not glorifying to God if I am so worn out from volunteering that I don't want to enter the sanctuary (or even the parking lot)!
But the gal you are talking about Preacher - the church is full of 'em I'm afraid. -
Many people wouldn't be burned out if everyone would exercise their gifts and talents. More so, it some men would stop lurking in the shadows and step up and be the men that God called them to be there would be a lot less burn out and cynicism to serving in the church.
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