Adoptions refers to us becoming children of God, and that is when we first believed, not when resurrected!
In Denunciation of Denials of the Future Bodily Resurrection of the Dead
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Scripture More Accurately, Apr 12, 2021.
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George Antonios Well-Known Member
Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. -
George Antonios Well-Known Member
Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Rom 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
Rom 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. -
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Scripture More Accurately Well-Known Member
Please stop discussing adoption in this thread. I have started a new thread to discuss that topic:
Have Believers Already Been Adopted as Children of God? -
Romans 8:15 (correctly translated)
For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a Spirit of promised future sonship benefits as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!”
Note, no mention of the "a" word... -
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George Antonios Well-Known Member
The best scholars translate Romans 8:15 this way:
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. -
George Antonios Well-Known Member
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Here is what you said in your OP: To deny that there will be a future bodily resurrection of the dead is to reject the great hope toward God that the entire Bible sets before all people. -
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There are other passages about bodily resurrection that I want to talk about. If you use up all the allotted posts discussing and arguing about adoption, you will have hijacked this thread. -
The OP has requested that this thread go in a certain direction - please honor that -
esp since a new thread was started for that different direction. (see post 46)
Please respect the OP -
OK Salty, I will stop posting.
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I agree that scripture seems clear that our bodies will be raised “on the last day”, but it also seems clear that our body will be transformed from its present “perishable” state to an eternal “imperishable” state.
If the events of Jesus body post-resurrection are any indication, then our new body will interact with time, space and matter differently than our present bodies do.
- So how “different” can a “body” be and still be called a “body”?
- Is it fair to call a body that walks through doors and appears and disappears from a location a “Spirit”?
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