What happens when you sin intentionally?
Does that mean that you DON'T have the Holy Spirit?
Does God forgive intentional and untentional sins as long as you repent of them?
Some questions puzzling my students. I'm looking for some other viewpoints.
Intentional Lying
Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Jamal5000, Nov 17, 2003.
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Almost ALL sin I do is intentional. God saved me and keeps me. I am a sinner but He is God.
If NOT sinning would keep me saved, then my salvation would be by BOB and not by God. -
You sin.
No, it means that you were not listening to the Holy Spirit.
God forgives sin. Period. -
Remember that when John said, If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (John 1:8), he was talking to Christians, people who did have the Holy Spirit. He goes on to explain in 2:1, My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: . These are all written to people who do have the Holy Spirit.
If you sin, it doesn't mean that you don't have the Holy Spirit, it means what John said, that you're not listening to the Holy Spirit.
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How do you lie unitentionally?
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I wonder if we lie when we don't answer our Caller ID if someone we don't want to talk to calls? -
Agree with previous posts - all sin is a choice, a conscious, deliberate choice to act, or a choice to act on the emotions of the moment. -
I'm no expert on law, but I believe the term murder usually implies an element of premeditated malice.
Having said that, most of the time killing someone is a sin. -
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Saying that, if you kill someone in the midst of a flury of anger, or lie in the passion of the moment, or commit adultery on the spur of the moment, or steal money that you happen to see without thinking about it, are those things not sin because you didn't plan on doing them? -
They are still a sin, because you chose to do them (even though you did not preplan it). Additionally, they are crimes.
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A family walks into a shopping mall, and while shopping, without their knowing, their baby (1 year old) grabbed a candy bar and drops it in the pram. They later leave the mall, and only discover the "theft" when they reach home... Did they steal something? sure... but to call it sin?
Having said that, I guess in many cases our "lack of intention" does not excuse our actions. -
Your illustration is clearly an accident, and in this case rectifiable. There was no "theft." If I am backing my car out of the driveway unaware that a child has fallen asleep under the car and kill him, that is an accident.
My questions all deal with actions over which control can be exercised. In my view each of the scenarios I mentioned is sin. -
II Cor 6:14 ...what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?
I John 1:3 ...and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
Phil 2:1 ...fellowship of the Spirit,
I John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. -
Nice post Artimaeus! Answering questions with scripture!
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Agree with previous posts - all sin is a choice, a conscious, deliberate choice to act, or a choice to act on the emotions of the moment. </font>[/QUOTE]I never implied that telling a lie or murdering anyone is not a sin.
What I said was you can sin unintentionally out of passion or the emotion of the moment. And I don't think you have proven me wrong.
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