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Is Alistair Begg Right?

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2 Corinthians 7:10
For the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation, but the sorrow of the world produces death

What you believe is damnable heresy!
No. I believe what the Bible says. We're supposed to be in the world but not of it.
 

Mikoo

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I'm not concerned about sin. And I'm not concerned about my perceived approval or disapproval of sin. It's my position that connection is the most important thing in this world, especially at this particular time period. The gravity of the situation is this:
If we don't start building bridges with each other at least at the family unit level, then this world will destroy itself in a third world war.
Go to the wedding. Be with your family. Make some memories. Value the people who God has placed in your life.
So you wouldn't share the Gospel with them? You are OK with 'making some memories' with them while you celebrate their sin. You won't warn them of the consequences of their unrepentant homosexuality? You are ok with them going to hell as long as you 'make memories'?

Of course we should 'value the people who God has placed in your life'. If it was these homosexuals getting married it would be so you can share the Gospel with them that they might be saved from the condemnation they are under from God right now (John 3:18).
 
So you wouldn't share the Gospel with them? You are OK with 'making some memories' with them while you celebrate their sin. You won't warn them of the consequences of their unrepentant homosexuality? You are ok with them going to hell as long as you 'make memories'?

Of course we should 'value the people who God has placed in your life'. If it was these homosexuals getting married it would be so you can share the Gospel with them that they might be saved from the condemnation they are under from God right now (John 3:18).
If they asked me how I felt about it only then would I share my thoughts.
This isn't about "celebrating sin". It's about building bridges and becoming more like Christ.
 

Mikoo

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No. I believe what the Bible says. We're supposed to be in the world but not of it.
So you would rather them stay 'in the world' then? You wouldn't share the Gospel and have God use you to save them from the wrath of God which is to come? So you are 'in the world', but it's okay for them to stay in this world? You don't want to bring them into the other world?
 

Mikoo

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If they asked me how I felt about it only then would I share my thoughts.
This isn't about "celebrating sin". It's about building bridges and becoming more like Christ.
Of course it is celebrating their sin. You are at their wedding celebration, so you are celebrating their sin. You can try and deny i all you want.

So then you agree with what I wrote: So you wouldn't share the Gospel with them? You are OK with 'making some memories' with them while you celebrate their sin. You won't warn them of the consequences of their unrepentant homosexuality? You are ok with them going to hell as long as you 'make memories'?

That is definitely not love.


You never responded to this part of what I wrote:
Of course we should 'value the people who God has placed in your life'. If it was these homosexuals getting married it would be so you can share the Gospel with them that they might be saved from the condemnation they are under from God right now (John 3:18).
 
So you would rather them stay 'in the world' then? You wouldn't share the Gospel have God use you to save them from the wrath of God which is to come? So you are 'in the world', but it's okay for them to stay in this world? You don't want to bring them into the other world?
You're twisting my words.
 
Of course it is celebrating their sin. You are at their wedding celebration, so you are celebrating their sin. You can try and deny i all you want.

So then you agree with what I wrote: So you wouldn't share the Gospel with them? You are OK with 'making some memories' with them while you celebrate their sin. You won't warn them of the consequences of their unrepentant homosexuality? You are ok with them going to hell as long as you 'make memories'?

That is definitely not love.


You never responded to this part of what I wrote:
Of course we should 'value the people who God has placed in your life'. If it was these homosexuals getting married it would be so you can share the Gospel with them that they might be saved from the condemnation they are under from God right now (John 3:18).
No, I don't agree with you wrote.
 

Mikoo

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You're twisting my words.
Nope. That is exactly what you wrote.
So again:
So you wouldn't share the Gospel with them? You are OK with 'making some memories' with them while you celebrate their sin. You won't warn them of the consequences of their unrepentant homosexuality? You are ok with them going to hell as long as you 'make memories'?

That is definitely not love.


You never responded to this part of what I wrote:
Of course we should 'value the people who God has placed in your life'. If it was these homosexuals getting married it would be so you can share the Gospel with them that they might be saved from the condemnation they are under from God right now (John 3:18).
 

Mikoo

Active Member
No, I don't agree with you wrote.
From what you wrote you do.
So you wouldn't share the Gospel with them? You are OK with 'making some memories' with them while you celebrate their sin. You won't warn them of the consequences of their unrepentant homosexuality? You are ok with them going to hell as long as you 'make memories'?

That is definitely not love.


You never responded to this part of what I wrote:
Of course we should 'value the people who God has placed in your life'. If it was these homosexuals getting married it would be so you can share the Gospel with them that they might be saved from the condemnation they are under from God right now (John 3:18).
 
Nope. That is exactly what you wrote.
So again:
So you wouldn't share the Gospel with them? You are OK with 'making some memories' with them while you celebrate their sin. You won't warn them of the consequences of their unrepentant homosexuality? You are ok with them going to hell as long as you 'make memories'?

That is definitely not love.


You never responded to this part of what I wrote:
Of course we should 'value the people who God has placed in your life'. If it was these homosexuals getting married it would be so you can share the Gospel with them that they might be saved from the condemnation they are under from God right now (John 3:18).
Did you read what I wrote? You're assuming a lot of things that aren't necessarily true.
 

Mikoo

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Did you read what I wrote? You're assuming a lot of things that aren't necessarily true.
Nope not assuming. Read what you wrote. That is why I am writing this again. You have not answered the questions I wrote and or commented on the second paragraph. Again:
So you wouldn't share the Gospel with them? You are OK with 'making some memories' with them while you celebrate their sin. You won't warn them of the consequences of their unrepentant homosexuality? You are ok with them going to hell as long as you 'make memories'?

That is definitely not love.


You never responded to this part of what I wrote:
Of course we should 'value the people who God has placed in your life'. If it was these homosexuals getting married it would be so you can share the Gospel with them that they might be saved from the condemnation they are under from God right now (John 3:18).
 
Nope not assuming. Read what you wrote. That is why I am writing this again. You have not answered the questions I wrote and or commented on the second paragraph. Again:
So you wouldn't share the Gospel with them? You are OK with 'making some memories' with them while you celebrate their sin. You won't warn them of the consequences of their unrepentant homosexuality? You are ok with them going to hell as long as you 'make memories'?

That is definitely not love.


You never responded to this part of what I wrote:
Of course we should 'value the people who God has placed in your life'. If it was these homosexuals getting married it would be so you can share the Gospel with them that they might be saved from the condemnation they are under from God right now (John 3:18).
I already answered your questions.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Yes, I am bringing feelings into it. They matter. And it matters how you treat people. This is right out of the Bible. It's the Golden Rule. Treat others how you want to be treated.
I would want to be told the truth so that I could avert life problems down line. Again you do no one any favors by allowing them to ruin their lives. At the very least you should be sitting down with that person to express your concerns face to face.They are tragically destroying any opportunity to have a normal loving relationship with the opposite sex, they can’t procreate, and they Will be ostracized by the world at large. You think that you’re doing any service to a relative by not addressing these issues upfront?

And these are only the worldly wounds they will be inflicting upon themselves. Need I outline the eternal ramifications for opposing God. Come on… you should know better.
 
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Earth Wind and Fire

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Nope not assuming. Read what you wrote. That is why I am writing this again. You have not answered the questions I wrote and or commented on the second paragraph. Again:
So you wouldn't share the Gospel with them? You are OK with 'making some memories' with them while you celebrate their sin. You won't warn them of the consequences of their unrepentant homosexuality? You are ok with them going to hell as long as you 'make memories'?

That is definitely not love.


You never responded to this part of what I wrote:
Of course we should 'value the people who God has placed in your life'. If it was these homosexuals getting married it would be so you can share the Gospel with them that they might be saved from the condemnation they are under from God right now (John 3:18).
Excellent and well thought out!
 
I would want to be told the truth so that I could avert life problems down line. Again you do no one any favors by allowing them to ruin their lives. At the very least you should be sitting down with that person to express your concerns face to face.They are tragically destroying any opportunity to have a normal loving relationship with the opposite sex, they can’t procreate, and they Will be ostracized by the world at large. You think that you’re doing any service to a relative by not addressing these issues upfront?

And these are only the worldly wounds they will be inflicting upon themselves. Need I outline the eternal ramifications for opposing God. Come on… you should know better.
I'm just saying that there's a gentler way to handle things like this. Because this hypothetical family member's feelings are on the line.
 

Mikoo

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I already answered your questions.
Hmm...Okay...From your responses (or more like non-responses/avoiding) then I will take from it that
You wouldn't share the Gospel with them. You are OK with 'making some memories' with them while you celebrate their sin. You won't warn them of the consequences of their unrepentant homosexuality and you are ok with them going to hell as long as you 'make memories'.

That is definitely not love.


Also:

That you 'value the people who God has placed in your life'. And If it were these homosexuals getting married you would not share the Gospel so that they might be saved from the condemnation they are under from God right now (John 3:18).
 
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