Interesting that you claim that Calvinists are deceived, and yet you uphold the false church of Rome, correct?
Is God Sovereign?
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by thatbrian, Nov 25, 2017.
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Just because God tells you well I can give and steal from anyone I want, you shouldn't automatically presume God steals.
This is the mistake I think you are making. You are letting your expectations get the better of you.
Then you start sounding like your buddy who is SHOCKED and SURPRISED God would even bother to save him, Because he always expected God to be EVIL. -
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You didn't even touch my challenge because you agree with me.
If you actually disagree with me you would tell me what was wrong with what was said. -
Are all sinners, apart from Christ, already judged and found guilty in sins? -
23 Three times in the year all your males shall appear before the Lord (האדן = Sovereign) GOD (יהוה = Yahwah), the Almighty (אלהי Elohim) of Israel. -
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God's sovereignty does not means that He can do anything. It means that He has the power and authority to do anything possible. There are things God cannot do because of natural limitations or self imposed limitations. I believe that God soveregnly has the power and authority to force his will over men. Sometimes He does. However, this is not always the case. Regardless of His direct influence or limited involvement, His will always finds a way.
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Explanation: He sets before us all life and death, blessing and cursing and what He "wishes" to do is to allow men choose life instead of death. And "the life" is in Jesus Christ.
Ezekiel 18:31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
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Philippians 2:6-8 NIV
How then do you reconcile this scripture?
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thatbrian said: ↑
Can anything or anyone prevent God from doing as He wishes? That's a simple question, so please provide a simple answer, with a brief explanation.
delizzle said,
Can a sovereign God choose to sovereignty limit Himself?
Not too educated, replying to a question, with a question!
God is Sovereign: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
God, the Word, took on human flesh to save us. (John 1)
God's Sovereignty never became limited!!
His plans and purposes from eternity past were never modified or changed.
Also, man can never "will" to be saved. The Fall made every aspect of his being
corrupt. Man is DEAD in his trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2). He can choose
nothing! Only God, in his Great Mercy, can regenerate him and give him faith. -
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Wouldn't that imply that He was God yet chose to limit Himself so it wouldn't be used for "His own advantage"?
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