Circumcision made one Abraham's covenant seed, not birth. Because over 300 of his servants and their families became covenant seed through circumcision at a time when only Ishmael was related to him. Circumcision as it related to God's command to circumcise made one Abraham's covenant seed. Not just any circumcision.
Israel’s Restoration?
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by 1689Dave, Jul 28, 2018.
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However, the Covenant "holy nation" of Israel was restored when at Pentecost when thousands of Jews & other dispersed Israelites from all round the empire responded to the NC Gospel message. thousands more were added, continually, including priests & Pharisees.
Exo. 19:5 Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, 6 you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.” These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.’
1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
Saved Jews & Gentiles become together the believing seed of Abraham by faith, the Israel of God, not by circumcision nor ethnicity but by faith in Christ.
Try reading the whole of Romans, not just a few verses in Rom. 11. If you include Rom. 15 in your reading, you will see these verses -
7 Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God. 8 For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God’s truth, so that the promises made to the patriarchs might be confirmed 9 and, moreover, that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy. As it is written:Looking for an earthly future for carnal Israel amounts to a rejection of the fulfilment of God's Covenant promises in the Lord Jesus Christ through the Gospel.
‘Therefore I will praise you among the Gentiles;
I will sing the praises of your name.’
10 Again, it says,
‘Rejoice, you Gentiles, with his people.’
11 And again,
‘Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles;
let all the peoples extol him.’
12 And again, Isaiah says,
‘The Root of Jesse will spring up,
one who will arise to rule over the nations;
in him the Gentiles will hope.’
13 May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.
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THe holy nation of Israel was reborn by the Spirit of God on the day of Pentecost -
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Sorry, but the Romans didn't go away til about 400 years later - long after Hadrian had dispersed the Jews in 135-136 AD & given their land to the Philistines. (Today's Palestinians. "Palestinian" is Latin for "Philistine". Don't believe me? Ask any Latin expert!)
Judah (Not actual Israel despite using that name) wasn't reborn til May 1948. -
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I posted them once. from Ezekiel 37. Now, please post Scripture that sez Jews are extinct.
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The thing that is unknown is the day and hour of the Advent? It's flexible, not fixed as the Books of Acts has not taken place yet. That date could have taken place in Acts up till about chapter 7 where it then moves on.
How long the kingdom is postponed I do believe what we see going on around us we can understand the days are getting shorter:Cautious
However trying to figure out those days in Daniel is something we should all consider.
I''m not waiting on a SIGN, but a SHOUT!
Of course 1 Thes. 5:1-6 kind of says otherwise...........
1 Thessalonians 5:1-6 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. -
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The language goes beyond that immediate situation in terms of the Messiah, his saving work, Pentecost & the calling initially of the Jews by the Gospel. The promises to the Patriarchs counted in all nations on earth through the Seed of Abraham - Christ.
The present Gospel age is the time during which the worldwide Gospel is calling saving sinners from all nations (including Jews) into the church which is described by Peter as comprising a holy nation. (1 Peter 2) Peter uses expressions that the LORD used when making the Old Covenant with Israel. (Exodus 19
Eze. 36 prophecies the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31 & Hebrews 8) saving work seen at Pentecost -
24 ‘“For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. 28 Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God.
As Peter explains in 2 Peter 3, the time scale is indefinite, & all will be perfectly fulfilled in the NH&NE. Note Rev. 21 -
3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, ‘Look! God’s dwelling-place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. -
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