I like my cheerleader. I'm boycotting this thread.
JC pennys Now 'officially" A gay friendly Company!
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Yeshua1, Jul 13, 2012.
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padredurand Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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HeirofSalvation Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
An utterly depraved culture is a culture where the Great Commission is harder to accomplish. A good General (if Sun Tzu is to believed) wins a battle...then he fights it.
No, it isn't directly a Great Commission thing, neither was defeating Hitler in WWII. Can Orthodox Jews or even morally sane non-Christians engage in some socio-cultural activism? Sure they can. They should be encouraged to. There is nothing wrong with moral people attempting to have a positive effect upon their world and culture. -
padredurand Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
So shall My word be which goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what I desire, And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.
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I do not understand the strange, unnatural fixation so many Baptists have with gay people.
You don't want to shop at Penney's, then don't. Who cares? -
Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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I do not understand the strange reasoning being used here to support and attempt to protect the homosexual agenda; you’d think the decision to stand up against those who are blatantly out to promote those types of values in our society would be an easy one and people would care… Christian people anyway.
It is obvious, as was previously mentioned here, that the shamefacedness of the issue is under attack by JC Penny. Most intelligent people can see what they are doing by pushing this line, yet some here would go as far as to say “who cares” and other cheer for them. -
Seriously, I don't get the issue. My marriage is not one iota diminished if civil unions or gay marriage are allowed. If people care about protecting marriage, work toward lowering the divorce rate, which does impact kids and devastate families. -
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Please name me a religious system throughout history that has advocated same-sex marriage. Same sex marriage has traditionally been opposed by Jews, Christians, and Muslims. Does it make sense to throw out thousands of years of religious traditions just so same sex people can say, "I'm married", rather than saying "I have a partner"?
When it comes down to it, gays want to be able to say "I'm married". They are not satisfied with having the exact same civil rights as hetero married people, they want that and the title.
How is your marriage affected if same-sex marriage is legalized? Every time you tell someone you are married they will have to allow for the idea that you are gay. You want people to think that? -
The problem is the word marriage means two things...one is a civil contract, the other is a religious pact. You can change the first and leave the second alone. Churches would not be required to solemnize gay couples' relationships, but the state and employers could no longer discriminate.
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And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
(Rom 12:2)
“Why oppose human rights for anyone”?!? Really!? :rolleyes: The abortionists think it is their human right to do what they please with their body so that they can live the way they want to live. That should tell you something about valuing human rights over moral principles in a society in which one lives.
A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh. And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.
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Look, a person can believe gay marriage is wrong, an abomination, or whatever. However, you cannot legislate your personal morality, religion, or belief onto others. As the maxim goes, my right to swing my fists ends where your nose begins.
If the Bible were the law of the land, then you'd probably be right. However, we live under a secular government, based on the Constitution of the United States. You should not mix the two. -
All laws are based on someone's morality.
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Bottom line is I look at it this way, guys. Tomorrow it could be MY rights up for a vote. Or YOURS. I don't believe we should be voting on which rights we allow any segment of society to exercise. Unless all are free, none of us are.
To again quote Thomas Jefferson, "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." -
InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I just don't understand it. If someone is gay and wants to proclaim it the term "civil union" pretty much describes the situation to every one involved. But no, they want to say they're married.
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