Jesus Christ Shed His Blood for Judas

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  1. SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    so no real answer? typical reformed response to their hot-air theology! :rolleyes:
     
  2. SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    and according to the like of you, ALL does not mean ALL either! :Laugh
     
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    anyone can quote Greek, but not know what it really means!
     
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    They were wrong to say that to Paul was mad from too much study ,as you are now.
    Acts26:24
     
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    All means different things in scripture.
    All in Adam does not equal All in Christ.
    Nice deflection away from the elect multitude. :Cautious
     
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    Look them up.
     
  7. SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    so what about the ALL that is used in 1 Timothy 2:1-6, where it is very clear tom those with no theological bias, that every use of ALL here means the entire human race! Yet those like yourself, will reject this because the Scripture here disagrees with your "theology"!
     
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    can't waste my time with people who think they know it all!
     
  9. Alan Gross Well-Known Member

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    By the Good Pleasure of His Own Will.
     
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    Well a, false accusation and seemingly choosing to be willingly ingnorant. Check the Strong's Greek dictionalry 3340.
     
  11. Alan Gross Well-Known Member

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    In I Timothy 2:1-6 the word, "all" expresses, "all kinds of men ( kings, etc.)", in context, in the second, forth, and fifth usages.
     
  12. SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    I don't use Strong's which is for those who hardly know any Greek. Try the Greek lexicons and you might learn a thing or two! Are you arguing against the need for repentance prior to salvation?
     
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    That is your theological twist. enough said, can't really deal with those who are biased!
     
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    Did you know that there are people who have sympathy for the Devil?
     
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    Then you know full well the Greek words that I referred to mean a change of view or a change of mind.
     
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    Jesus said, "Woe to the man by whom I'm betrayed! Better for that man if he'd never been born", showing He knew Judas would die in sin. He said that in Judas' presence. He even told Judas, "Go, do what you must do quickly." Thus, Jesus made it known to Judas that He knew Judas would be His betrayer, giving Judas the chance to repent of his evil intent before he did it. Thus, no one can say Jesus was unfair to Judas. Judas was made aware that a terrible eternity awaited him if he betrayed Jesus, and Jesus knew who would betray Him. But Judas went through with his act anyway.

    Now, just HOW did Judas betray Him ? He showed the temple police sent to arrest Him who Jesus was, by his kiss. He had told them beforehand that Jesus would be He whom Judas would greet with a kiss. Otherwise, the police woulda passed Jesus by, as He looked quite-ordinary, & they'd never seen Him before.
     
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    without involving sorrow for sins?
     
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    and Jesus tells Judas in Luke's Gospel, that He was to shed His blood for HIS sins! This is what the Gospel is about!
     
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    Yes the gospel goes to all men not just those of Israel not just Jewish people not just common people ,those in Authority, all men. but not all men are going to be saved
     
  20. Van Well-Known Member
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    I have answered that question time and time again. Why not start thinking for yourself, and see what scripture says the fallen must do to be chosen for salvation.