What the heck?
Jesus is the Reason for Calvinism
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Humble Disciple, Jul 11, 2021.
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
You have your thoughts.
You are trying to promote discussion.
You are getting resistance.
You are on the right side of many of the issues.
There is much more to be said,then one liners. -
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
you're not going to find truth and error on both sides of the fence
a JW.denies the Trinity there's no ,well he might be right you might be right ,he's wrong.
Some people haven't come to truth yet.
some have come to some truth, and not all of it.
I personally believe everyone every believer is the calvinist but they don't know it yet. I believe that of the Five Points as you can see from the poll
some believe 2 pts, some believe 4,
some leave off this point or that. -
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Why not leave that to God.
I am not going to declare that truth is not essential, especially when Jesus declared it is so. -
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Unconditional Election of individuals is false doctrine, as 2 Thessalonians 2:13 says people are chosen for salvation through or by reason of faith in the truth. This same doctrine is also found in James 2:5 where God chooses those poor to the world, rich in faith, and those who love God, thus heirs to the promise to those who love God.
Christ provided the means of salvation for all humanity but only those God chooses by reason of crediting their faith as righteousness are placed into Christ and are thus redeemed.
Once again, your response deflected but did not address the issue, how could they be entering is unable to seek God, and how could they be prevented from going in, if enabled by irresistible grace. No answer is possible, except that both the T and the I of the TULIP are bogus.
Once again, the answer to your question concerning perseverance, changes the definition of "enabling grace" from something that alters the unsaved such that they willingly believe, to something that preserves that faith after the person is placed into Christ. The answer from scripture, of course is 1 Peter 1:3-5 which says of those already born anew, God keeps them by protecting their faith. -
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Read more carefully. -
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I don't think you are understanding the terms the same way that Reformed theology means them. Instead, you are attacking strawmen. -
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