Whenever Joel Osteen sits down to...
http://blog.chron.com/believeitorno...t-christians-focus-too-much-on-homosexuality/
Joel does it again
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by freeatlast, Jan 9, 2012.
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More false teaching and skirting truth. My wife just said, "Well, he won't be on Oprahs favorites list anymore for calling h*mosexuality a sin."
Oprah had to insert her favorite "theological" sugar-stick, and that is that there are many ways to God, and sought for Joel to tickle her ears. Oh how people love to talk of religion but not of sin, exclusion, being lost, &c.
It's of great interest that everyone (I'm sure there are a few fools out there who don't) wants to get to Heaven, but so many want to go around Christ to get there. Why? Because He is a Rock of offense, a stone of stumbling; 1 Peter 2:8. They stumble at this because the are disobedient (contrary to their claim to be on their way to Heaven on another path); 1 Peter 2:8. The cross is an offense and is foolishness to those who are perishing; 1 Cor. 1:18. As thieves and robbers they seek to climb in some other way; John 10:1.
I won't say too much here other than those who practice a certain thing are not a race as Oprah presumes.
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Hey FAL, Be Careful....
Be aware, there are eyes reading and watching. And if this kind of advanced warning can be posted to my OP, they should be posted to yours and others:
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Scarlett O. ModeratorModerator
Well, he did say that homosexuality was a sin according to the scripture. That is true. And he implied that homosexuality and pride and lying were all equally offensive to God. That's true, too.
I have a bigger problem with his view of Jesus Christ.
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Scarlett O. ModeratorModerator
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I think he just stripped Jesus of His deity.
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Osteen and other false teachers are a plague upon the nation for national sin.
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
What You Said....
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evangelist6589 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
It means that jesus can met people differently.
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evangelist6589 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Wonder how many faithfully turned in to Oprah last night, but wouldn't spend an hour in God's house Sunday morning?
Wonder how many spend more hours with Oprah than they spend reading God's word each week?
Wonder how many more books Osteen will sell today? Will Wal-Mart's display of his "stuff" be empty by tonight?
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Scarlett O. ModeratorModerator
He did what he always does. He skirts the issue. He doesn't want to offend anyone.
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Osteen's quote:
Yup. That will go over really well in the gay community. -
Osteen is being ambiguous by playing linguistic games. He is fully aware that "multiple paths to God" Oprah is speaking of is from a universal perspective. He is speaking from a situational/experiential work of the Holy Spirit in each individual from all walks of life. -
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- Jesus is God.
- Osteen says there are many ways (paths) to Jesus.
- This means to Osteen there are many ways to God.
- Conclusion: He's a false teacher.
Frankly, no one comes to Jesus just anyway they want. Think about it. It's not about doing it in the first place, it is about Him doing it. Osteen is pandering to the religious in what he is saying.
Does this mean a person who comes to Jesus for WOF objectives, that is, to gain wealth, health, is saved in doing this? Not hardly. But this is the type of message he preaches, come to Jesus for success in this life. Perhaps he's not strictly by definition a WOF, but his message comes to the same end.
In this false Gospel of health, wealth, and success, being saved from sins becomes secondary language. When the entire purpose of salvation, that is, to be saved from sins becomes secondary language within the talk, belief, objective of the "believer" and the "preacher" then they have a false Gospel, or, to express it another way, a false "Good News."
Not only this, but the Jesus that is being presented in this message looks completely different than the Jesus I see within the Scriptures.
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