Have any of you read Kingdom Authority by Adrian Rogers?
Someone in my church is teaching a class on this book and was told by another teacher that it is false doctrine.
I don't know anything about it, so I would like to hear some opinions. I know I can get lots of those around here! :laugh:
Thanks!
Amy
Kingdom Authority
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Amy.G, Mar 8, 2009.
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Kingdom Authority-Adrian Rogers
This is a synopsis of The Incredible Power of Kingdom Authority, Adrian Rogers, Broadman & Holman, 2002
Thoughts and Quotes
The Incredible Power of Kingdom Authority
Adrian Rogers, Broadman & Holman, 2002
Summarized by: Jeff Noble, June 2004
• Why are we fighting a battle already lost when we could enjoy a victory already won?
• The Trinity of Evil: the world, the flesh, and the devil
• The flesh is like software programming the hardware of our brain and body. And it has a virus called sin.
• If Satan didn’t exist, you would go on sinning without his help. He comes to obsess, depress, and defeat you. He is called the deceiver, a liar, a murderer, the accuser of the brothers, the tempter, the prince of the power of the air, the destroyer, and the evil one.
• Two Greek words for “power” – dunamis (ability and strength) and exousia (the right to use power). When Jesus gave them the power to tread on snakes (Luke 17.10-19), it was dunamis. The “power over the enemy” is exousia.
• Charles Spurgeon: “If we let passion take the place of judgment, and self-will reign instead of scriptural authority, we shall fight the Lord’s battles with the devil’s weapons, and if we cut our own fingers we must not be surprised.”
• Have you ever thought that you may be asking God for what you already have?
• The cleverest lies of Satan sound almost like the truth. Remember, a broken clock is still right twice during the day! Jesus used God’s Word to defeat Satan’s temptations. Know the truth!
• Difference between commitment and surrender. We love to ask people to make a commitment. They will respond. But surrender? Americans love commitment because they are still in control. They made the commitment. But the key word in Christ is surrender.
• You cannot be over those things that God wants you to be over until you learn to be under those things that God has set over you. The principle of authority in our lives. Americans hate authority. When you are willing to be to Jesus what Jesus was in His humanity to the Father, then Jesus will be to your humanity what the Father was to Him. (67)
• Learning to be a slave to God actually sets you free. “The slave to the compass has freedom of the seas. The rest must sail close to the shore.”
• We will not have what He gives until we accept who He is. Charles Spurgeon: “If the convert declares that he knows the Lord’s will but doesn’t’ mean to attend to it, it is your duty to assure him that he is not saved. Don’t imagine that the Gospel is magnified, or God glorified, by going to worldlings and telling them that they may be saved at this moment simply by accepting Christ as their Savior, while they are wedded to their idols with their hearts, and their hearts are still in love with sin. If I do so, I tell them a lie, I pervert the Gospel, I insult Christ, I turn the grace of God into lasciviousness.”
• My great need is not more authority for myself but more intimacy with Jesus so I can coordinate my will to His.
• The popular idea of the church being a democracy (the rule of the people) is not found in the Bible. The spirit of rugged individualism and autonomous selfhood is not to be the motivating power of a New Testament church.
o Everyone’s opinion is not equally correct.
o The opinion of the majority is not necessarily right.
o All in the church are not basically the same. (We all have equal value before God, but we have different gifts and functions)
• The priesthood of the believer does not refer to authority, but to the fact that each believer has direct access to God through the Lord Jesus Christ.
• The pastor’s task is to help the members discover, develop, and deploy their spiritual gifts, and to let them serve at Jesus’ command.
• About the pastor’s leadership, Oswald Sanders said: “It should be authoritative, because people love to be led by one who knows where he is going and who inspires confidence. Spiritual, because a leadership that is unspiritual, that can be fully explained in terms of the natural, although eligible, attractive, and competent, will only result in sterility and moral and spiritual bankruptcy. Sacrificial, because modeled on the life of the One who gave Himself as a sacrifice for the whole world, who left us an example that we should follow in His footsteps.”
• The pastor who is always available is not worth very much when he is available. (Even Jesus modeled a life of drawing away to spend time with the Father.)
• Sin in the heart is like an enemy behind the lines.
• Satan cannot keep God from answering, so he tries to keep us from asking.
• Joseph T’son, pastor in Romania, told the communists, “I know what you can do. Your chief weapon is killing, but let me tell you what my chief weapon is. My chief weapon is dying. And I want to warn you that if you use yours, I will be forced to use mine.”
• Authority is not a means to get earth’s will done in heaven. It is a means to pursue heaven’s will performed on earth. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I have the book. What specifically about it is false doctrine?
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James 4:7. Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
I don't know that resisting Satan means that we have authority over him but we know he has no authority over us. Scripture also tells us:
1 John 4:2-4
2. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3. And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. -
I highly doubt that Adrian Rogers has taught something that is false doctrine like she claims my SS teacher said. I don't really think that he called the book false doctrine. More than likely he called her teaching false doctrine. But I cannot say for sure. That's why I was wanting to know something about A.R.'s book. I am going to pray about this situation as only God can handle it properly. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
In his book "Kingdom Authority" Dr. Rogers writes on page 24 in the chapter titled "Getting Ready For The War" which is chapter 2 and on paragraph 1:
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preachinjesus Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
It would be hard to find error in Dr. Rogers' teaching. While I don't worship the man, I have deep respect for his ministry and authenticity in preaching the Scriptures.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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I have listened to Dr. Rogers for years and would find it hard to believe that he would have any error in his teachings.( what a great preacher he was)
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If you would let me know what chapter, page, and paragraph is in question---I will be glad to take a look
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I don't know. I was told this in a conversation I had this morning with the woman who is teaching from Dr. Rogers book. She was really mad because another teacher (my SS teacher) had told her she was teaching a false doctrine because she was teaching that we have authority over the devil. I just wanted to know if anyone here had read his book and could tell me what he said about it. I have never thought Dr. Rogers taught a false doctrine, but maybe she has misunderstood something or added her own twist to it. -
Let me give you a couple of quotes to listen for:
"In Romania under Communisim, we exhorted people to come to Christ, but not too quickly."
"We intentionally try to make it as hard to come to Christ as we can."
Chew on that. Sorry to distract from the thread, but it's worth listening to.