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KJV Versions.

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by 37818, Mar 19, 2021.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    They are all the English word of the Lord to us today!
     
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    you should know by now, that there cannot be a "perfect translation"!
     
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    There are two issues: 1) Translation. 2) Textual variants.
    Over all the KJV wins more often.
     
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    I do, but sadly some of the brethren still fail to grasp that!
     
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    Would say that many who are recently saved would do much better reading the Esv or Nkjv then the Kjv, not due to it being bad, but due to hard to read with understanding!
     
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    No, it's not.
     
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    KJVO circular reasoning logic!
     
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    NKJV has more in common with the KJV. Otherwise no. I was 14, new Christian and my only Bible was the KJV.
     
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    Would say many today have issues with their English Grammar, so would benefit from a modern version Bible!
     
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    Can you tell the singular pronouns from the plural in your modern Bible how many places?
     
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    Can. The old grammar did not hurt me.
     
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    Same as I can in everyday conversations, by context, etc.
    Do you use "ye, thee" when speaking to co-workers, your friends, relatives, the waitress at a restaurant, etc?
     
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    Yes, but does hurt many others though!
     
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    I read Chaucer's Canterbury Tales in its original English & kept at it til I understood all of it, then, comparing it to a faithful modern-English translation. Same for Beowulf, but i had to use a modern translation to decipher its Old English completely. But I was able to read many tales of chivalry & of the knights of the Round Table in their old & Middle English after that! I enjoyed them immensely! (But I left off reading them to concentrate on sports & regular schoolwork, & only resumed reading them again after I was married & settled down.)
     
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    In our culture it is not need. But in the original texts it is. And God so speaks to us in His written word.
     
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    Few people use old Hebrew, Aramaic, or Koine Greek today, and translations should be in language current for the time when they are made.
     
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    The 1611 translators fully agreed with you here!@
     
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    My son in High school read Hamlet in old English and also in modern!
     
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    The Hebrew, Atamaic and Koine Greek have the singular and plural pronouns. Those truths are lost in most modern translations. Not in the English KJV.
     
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    Good ! Does he know Shakespeare coined many words in use today?
     
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