Knowing vs. Feeling in Worship

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  1. Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
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    Thinking is not knowing Tony
     
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    Thinking is not knowingTony and I have found a local church.... in Wintergarden Florida
     
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    Knowledge for knowledge sake is vanity. Alistair Begg is speaking about "knowledge of". Knowledge of the Word made possible by the work of the Holy Spirit. When Paul wrote, "For I am not ashamed of the Gospel because it is the power of God unto salvation" it presupposes that power comes with understanding.

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    Have you actually attended one of their services yet?
     
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    Rob, what does scripture say?

    Romans 10:17
    So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.

    Hearing is in vain without understanding. Faith can produce feeling and emotion but feeling and emotion cannot produce faith.

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    Yup.... plenty of them here... Happy, happy, Joy, Joy!
     
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    So if faith can produce feelings and emotion, why is "How are you feeling?" being maligned as a greeting?

    I'm not saying that a church's feeling to knowing ratio can't be out of tolerance, but it seems like quite a thing to nitpick.
     
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    If he were to say,”how’s tricks” would you be OK with that?
     
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    I would have to google it, since i have no idea what that means.

    Of course, if you attend church online all you have to do is open another tab, I guess. ;)
     
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    You have moved to Florida?
     
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    So you found a local assembly, that you have never assembled with yet:oops:?it is 1300 miles away?:Sick
     
  13. Reformed Well-Known Member
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    I can't speak for Alistair Begg but I think he's referring to a call to worship that may have been heavy on whipping people into an emotional response. I have seen this before. Some churches do that slow jam music during prayer in order to "set the mood", as though prayer needs musical accompaniment in order for God to hear it.

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    Yeah, he doesn't call out the church, which I agree he shouldn't, and we weren't there either...makes the whole thing prone to what ifs, unfortunately. But it seems to me that how we feel is definitely a component of our spiritual health.
     
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    I do not disagree. True faith should impact our emotions. I just do not believe it is the other way around.

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    Ordo Adfectus?
    :)
     
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    No, but I intend to
     
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    Yes... and I have been looking for it for a long time. Actually it’s only 921.9 miles, Winter Garden is lovely! And I can wear a hand gun inside. What’s better than that! :Cool
     
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    Exactly... no muss, no muss. But the church I’m attending , on line, Is exceptional. I highly recommend it.
     
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    I'll be away from home for a...while. Maybe I'll log in one Sunday.