"Left vs Right" - Politics is a farce.

Actually, that was my first impression; but I didn't want to rush a judgement of the OPer.

 

Makes one wonder why he felt compelled to drop in and share his disdain for all of us and our concern for the direction this country goes, politically?

 

Hey, I made a comment about what was posted; YOU chose to respond to my comment and make it a big deal.

Again, I pointed out exactly the wording that led the conclusion I made. If you choose to ignore such wording, that's your choice.

And there you go with your imprecise language again. Why are you inferring that I was "complaining" about what he wrote? I merely offered up a different viewpoint. YOU'RE the one that has identified what I wrote as "seemingly indignant" and "complaining."

My opinion is based on what he wrote. YOU won't address that he actually wrote certain words; so how does that make your opinion more truthful than mine?

The analogy that best exemplifies what you just wrote--and I'll be the first to admit that no analogy is perfect--is: 4 people see a car accident. 3 of them say one of the vehicles had a turn signal on. You say neither car had a turn signal on. The other 3 are obviously wrong.

God hates sin; yet, while we were yet sinners, He loved us so much that He died for us. If we say we have no sin in us, we are liars; yet He loves us anyway. There is a difference between "love" and "like".

Yet, I've repeatedly shown you the basis for what I said, and you won't address that. You just simply keep saying that's not what he said.

Oh, puh-leeze. That's why in my response to you I used the word "inference." The inference is NOT based on my own opinions; it's based on words the individual used, the definitions of those words, and the context of how those words were used together. Get over it.

Maybe that's why this section is titled "Christian DEBATE Forums"?....

 

There must be something in the Mountain Dew!:laugh:

 

Well I'll hush up my mug ............

 

How is anyone supposed to understand "don't vote" to mean "vote and write in"?

Words have meaning.

You can't claim a different meaning that is the opposite of what the plain reading of the text says.

Or is that how you read Scripture too?

 

If we wonder why we have two pathetic candidates running for President, maybe we should look in the mirror as a nation, especially on the Republican side. The cycle repeats every four years, since 1988, and we never learn. The cycle goes like this. A liberal wins the nomination, and everyone gripes about the choices. The Democrat either wins by a good margin or the Republican squeeks through. Then, when the election is over, we forget all about making a difference the next election. Three and a half years later when the primaries start, a bunch of liberal bafoons are running for the nomination. Everyone starts complaining again. After the election, no one does anything. It was repeated in 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008 and now, in 2012. It is too late to do anything about it.

It is a virtual guarantee, regardless who wins, we will sit on our lazy duffs until 2016 is upon us, and viola, another liberal is running.

If one keeps doing the same dumb things, the one gets the same dumb results. If the candidacy of John McCain and Mitt Romney did not wake up anyone, then nothing will.

We created the situation we are in today, We reap what we sow, what goes around comes around.

Votes for Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, and Romney are all based on the lesser of two evils, and a good excuse to explain how lazy we are.

 

I'm still extremely disappointed that the Constitution Party has finally identified a presidential candidate, but no one knows that they did so, or anything about the individual.

So in response to your post: As a generalization, you're absolutely correct. Individually, some folks are trying. We just need to find other, better, more effective ways.

 

I was a delegate to the Constitution Party this year in April at Nashville. The man they nominated was Virgil Goode. He is a former Congressman from VA. He has some good ideas, but his charisma is zero. He is hard to hear, and speaks with his eyes downward, and certainly does not inspire a crowd.

In addition, the rest of the state delegation from Kentucky decided not to show up. It cost several hundred bucks between the convention fees and the hotel. The delegates that did come from other states seemed more interested in chit chat and party time than doing something to make a difference. As I left for home, I was totally disquisted. The next day, I went down to the courthouse and switched back to Republican. That does make me any more fond of Romney, despite the fact he is our only hope of unseating Obama. Not a good situation. The only conclusion I can come to is one can only affect change within the Republican Party as long as it is one of the two major parties. Very depressing really. It kind of reminds me of the conclusions the Preacher reaches in Eccleseastis.

 

I guess this means that Don was right in his inferences.

 

So why are you here? In this, the "politics" forum?

Other than to show us how unChristian we are as compared to you, that is?

and Don't worry about offending me. It's impossible in an internet forum.

But , I'd like to have the truth. It appears you have another agenda. It's also strange that , out of all the posts here, you chose to respond to mine.

Touch a nerve so closely that you make a liar out of yourself by making this post?

 

Man, I have never seen such a post full of bumper sticker slogans.

 

Yes, voting for the lesser of two evils is still evil. Just a question, what have you done in the last four years to make a change? You can post all of the lofty ideals you wish, but we do not live in Disneyland, and all Americans do not act like the Waltons. We have to deal with the situation we are in, granted it for the most part of our own making. God's judgement is more often than not letting the consequences of our actions be the penalty.

You are right about one thing. America has been more blessed and has sinned a lot more than the OT nations and at times Israel that God judged. That is one thing that is hard to imagine, why this has gone on so long. Things like same sex relationships and abortion have been going on a long time, and are bad enough in themselves. However, when America makes it the law of the land, it is like rubbing God's nose in sin. Abortion is already the law of the land, and slowly but surely, the states are allowing same sex marriage, and will not stop until it reaches fifty.

I think most here are open to discussing conspiracy theories involving the federal government. The fact that gives me the greatest reason to doubt them, is that most of conspiracies would take a great amount of intelligence. That is hard to imagine since departments like the Postal Service and the VA cannot do their everyday function in an efficient manner.

 

I guess Zaac left us for the weekend....

 

So, in spite of what you say, you are very much interested in politics.

As to the New World Order... that's just a name, but I think we are all aware of the strong push by internationalists like Obama and the Clintons to weaken our constitution in favor of the opinion of the rest of the world. In fact, they seem to want to subjugate us to the whims of the international community. They are trying to destroy the concept of American exceptionalism once and for all.

UN Agenda 21 is not news to me. It's in writing. Anyone that wants to see what the goal of the international community concerning America and it's freedoms is, has but to read it.

Tales of the illuminati have been around for a long time. There's nothing new here. But I confess, I've never heard of the Georgia Guidestones. I'll have to research them.

I think , on the whole, you will find most of the regulars here better informed than you think, but we are definitely hard to lead down the primrose path of a lot of wild conspiracy theories.

But if you'd like serious debate, you'd best get off your high horse and stopping acting like you are some sort of super Christian and the rest of us are just gnats buzzing around your head. And if you are truly not concerned about the direction we are headed politically, then perhaps you should just try another forum.

 

Conspiracy theories are an interesting topic, but so is the existence of UFOs. The fact is that most government entities cannot perform their daily function with any efficiency, so to take that mindset to a level of being able to deceive the entire American citizenry is a giant leap.