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Man Dies Terrorizing Women And Children
- Thread starter Bro. Curtis
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I read up on this today -- the woman who ended the threat is an off-duty military police officer.
He picked the wrong place to pull a gun.
He picked the wrong place to pull a gun.
A textbook case of an armed peacemaker.
Good grief!
Should it bother me that she didn't clear the chamber on any of those pistols?
I am so safety focused, I can't stand it when someone doesn't follow my personal protocol.
She may not chamber rounds until needed.
I thought about that, but (1) having to chamber a round slows you down and the sound of chambering may undermine the element of surprise (your only advantage) in the case of having to confront a bad guy; and (2) a good safety protocol demands that you never ASSUME the chamber is clear unless you clear it.
Great, we completely agree on something
The reason I am obsessed with checking the chamber is that my NRA-certified instructor gave me a protocol for safety back when I was in grade school and modeled it every time we went shooting. It is a force of habit. Moreover, there have four times in 40 years when I was surprised by the contents of the chamber -- three times it has been empty when I was certain a round was chambered, and one shocking day when a round was chambered and I was certain it was empty. But each time when what I thought was certain was in fact, wrong, I had followed the safety protocol and there were no casualties except for my shock at the realization that I did not actually know the status of all of my firearms.
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1. I carry and I do not chamber a round.
2. Before my weapon is holstered and a magazine is inserted I check the chamber and release the trigger.
3. Arguments can be made for and against both practices.
Then you don't carry a firearm. You carry an expensive and mostly useless club.
over 40 years ago I learned a scary lesson.
One day I blasted a hole in my closet wall with my Mossberg 12 gauge which did not have a chambered shell. Right.
No one was hurt except my wounded ego for (me a veteran) being so stupid in weapon handling. Never happened again.
It is really easy to get lazy and have an accident. Most of my friends who do not have a rigid protocol have accidentally fired off a round.
A friend of mine lost his life in 2016 by his own hand with an AR-15 style rifle -- either he was not being safe (I had witnessed that behavior before) or he decided to commit suicide in a way that looked like an accident. There were no witnesses and his wife found his body by a fence with much of his skull missing. In any case, he left behind a traumatized wife, three children who were devastated, and a Christian overseas ministry which may or may not survive.
A few years ago I was at a gun show here in Fort Worth where a dealer had a pistol with a chambered round. He didn't check the chamber before handing it to a potential customer and the customer pulled the trigger. Fortunately, the round hit the floor and the fragments did not injure anyone. The dealer was immediately ejected from the show and had to hurriedly pack up all of his merchandise. The show organizers could not get him out the door fast enough.
I've never had an accidental discharge of a firearm, but back when I was in the junior NRA rimfire program I avoided such an incident by pure happenstance. I liked to dry-fire praqctice in my upstairs bedroom using empty brass, and one evening I closed the bolt and found the trigger had already let off. The bolt noise must have screened that of the pin. Tried again, same thing, so I took the old Mossberg and some brass down to my dad. He quickly diagnosed trigger creep (I'd enjoyed the hair trigger), and adjusted it to 2.5 lb, sealed with a dot of glue. Had I not dry-fired that week, the following Saturday at the range I probably would've sent 40 grains of lead over the backstop hill.
I was present at one accidental discharge at age 14, at that time the minimum age for a regular NJ hunting license. A friend was showing me his recent gift of a .30-.30 (for out of state use only, rifles illegal in NJ then and now) and I should've spoken up as he showed me how to load it. Next thing I recall was dust settling from ceiling and walls, and the thunder of parents charging toward the room. His mom gently told me I ought to go home, but as I walked away from the house the swats and cries were plainly audible. Fortunately, for both of us, he had been pointing the weapon in a safe direction, the bullet exiting thru the crown molding above his closet.
I was present at one accidental discharge at age 14, at that time the minimum age for a regular NJ hunting license. A friend was showing me his recent gift of a .30-.30 (for out of state use only, rifles illegal in NJ then and now) and I should've spoken up as he showed me how to load it. Next thing I recall was dust settling from ceiling and walls, and the thunder of parents charging toward the room. His mom gently told me I ought to go home, but as I walked away from the house the swats and cries were plainly audible. Fortunately, for both of us, he had been pointing the weapon in a safe direction, the bullet exiting thru the crown molding above his closet.