Matthew 12:31-32, for the 'saved', 'unsaved', or both (all)
Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Luk 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
Matthew 12:31-32; Mark 3:28-29; Luke 12:10, for the 'saved', 'unsaved', or both (all)
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Alofa Atu, Aug 29, 2019.
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From my notes on the Gospel of Matthew:
Cycles of Unbelief
I. Sayings Collection 1
a. Unbelief: John the Baptist (11:2-19)
b. Unbelief: The towns of Galilee (11:20-24)
c. Belief: “Come unto me” (11:25-30)
II. Saying Collection 2
a. Unbelief: Sabbath controversy (12:1-8)
b. Unbelief: Sabbath controversy (12:9-14)
c. Belief: “The hope of the Gentiles” (12:15-21)
III. Sayings Collection 3
a. Unbelief: The unforgivable sin (12:22-37)Contention concerning the power of Jesus
b. Unbelief: An evil generation (12:38-54)
c. Belief: Jesus’ true family (12:46-50)
1. The occasion: (12:22-23) The crowds saw casting out of the demon as a sign of the divine authority of the coming Messiah
2. The Pharisees accusation: Jesus casts out demons by the power of Beelzebul (12:24)
3. Jesus’ responds with questions:
Question 1 - Would Satan work against himself?
A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand (vs 25-26)Question 2 - Who are your exorcists empowered by? (vs 27)
The sign of driving out demons is a clear sign of Jesus’ Messianic authority – which the crowd had earlier recognized (vs. 23)
Question 3 - Jesus affirms the real power behind the miracles (vs 28-30) and explains its consequences
“But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.” (vs. 28)Question 4 - “How can someone enter a strong man's house and steal his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can rob his house.” (vs 29)
Definition:
Blasphemy: Profane or contemptuous speech or writing about (or action toward) God. In a general sense, “blasphemy” can refer to any slander, including any word or action that insults or devalues another being.
Unpardonable sin: Regarded by some as a continued and obstinate rejection of the gospel, and hence is an unpardonable sin, simply because if a sinner remains in unbelief he voluntarily excludes himself from pardon. -
Are the verses for the 'saved', 'unsaved' or both (all)?
Are you saying that the verses are for the 'unsaved' and not for the 'saved', since you stated "... if a sinner remains in unbelief ..."? -
Matthew’s Gospel was directed toward the Jewish community, among which there were believers, followers, and deniers.
So IMO the passage is directed towards those that have not (yet) believed, with the hope that they would become part of the family by choosing to do the will of the Father (12:50).
Rob -
The Bible is intended to be read and understood by those that are saved, not those that are not.
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" For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope." ( Romans 15:14 ).
Written to believers, not unbelievers.
Do you have Scriptures that show that it is written to all of mankind, and that the "natural man", that cannot receive the things of the Spirit because they are spiritually discerned ( 1 Corinthians 2:14-16 ), can receive the things of God?
Can you provide Scriptures that clearly show that the preaching of the cross is anything other than foolishness to them that are perishing ( 1 Corinthians 1:18 )?
How about John 8:47?
" He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God." -
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1 And seeing the multitudes, He went up on a mountain, and when He was seated His disciples came to Him.
2 Then He opened His mouth and taught them, saying:
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
For they shall be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
For they shall inherit the earth.
Matthew 5:1-5 on onward...
Mark 6:33 But the multitudes saw them departing, and many knew Him and ran there on foot from all the cities. They arrived before them and came together to Him.
34 And Jesus, when He came out, saw a great multitude and was moved with compassion for them, because they were like sheep not having a shepherd. So He began to teach them many things.
“Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature." Mark 16
But Jesus said, “Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 19:14 -
Dave, think of the implications of what you’re saying.
Does that means you’d never share Scripture while witnessing to the unsaved.
You would never encourage the unsaved to read the Gospel of John, or never follow the Romans Road while witnessing?
The Gospels are God’s witness to the world that his Son is the Savior of the world. Wouldn’t you share that news with the unsaved.
Rob -
They were among the multitude.
Every verse that speaks about a person being blessed, describes a saved person...
"Blessed are the poor in spirit," etc.
"Go into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creature..."
Here's the rest of the passage:
" And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." ( Mark 16:16 ).
He's stating a fact...those that believe shall be saved, those that do not shall be damned.
He is comparing the little children to God's children.
The poor in spirit, the meek, those that hunger and thirst after righteousness.:) -
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But I would never tell someone that God loves them "and has a wonderful plan for their life", and I would never preach the "gospel" as most today preach it...as an "offer".
I would simply speak the word of God, and see who responds.
God does the saving, not men.
The belief of His words does not rest on the persuasiveness of a person's speech, but upon whether or not a person has "ears to hear" ( Matthew 11:15 ).
I also take great comfort in knowing that His word will accomplish that which He has purposed whenever and wherever it goes forth.
God's purposes according to election will stand.:)