Musical Instruments in Christ's church

Beautiful, Ann.

I know the same when my children and I play the guitar, mandolin, and piano.

As a matter of fact, two missionary children in our group were born again while their Mother and I sang along with a piano in church a few months ago. I don't know if I've ever felt the Holy Spirit so strongly in all my life. God was not displeased!

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Originally Posted by John Toppass
Worshipping and giving glory to God is a wonderful spiritual happening, whether or not musical instruments are used. IMO, saying that musical instruments can not be used in a church worship service is like saying prayer can not be said unless you are in the church building.
Those who limit themselves as to how and when they can worship God, help Satan with his plans to keep the lost from hearing and understanding the WORD.

Both so right!

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ITA!

I can play all of those.

 

Good post!

In Eastern Europe we take off our shoes when we enter, but not because it is a sacred place. That is done everywhere because shoes are nasty. Inside of houses/churches are clean.

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Good post. I particularly enjoyed your passive-aggressive dig, but that's because I'm an odd duck who is used to her husband's particular brand of sarcastic humor. LOL!

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Now ya gone and went all logical and stuff.

 

Love it!!!

 

I just choked on a Skittle, TYVM!

 

Wow! That's a whole lot of Spinach! LOL!

I'm through the whole thread.

Sounds to me that someone, in the name of doing away with the law, is trying to put in bondage all that Christ set at liberty.

I've been around this type of logic before---David was under the law, so everything David did was abolished by Christ (laughable, at best). That sounds like the preaching of my youth----"Sin is fun, so therefore, to have fun, is sin." or here's one "Iced tea is a sin because it looks like a mixed drink and as Christians we are to avoid all appearances of evil." Wait, here's another "Wire rimmed glasses are a sin because they started with the hippies." And lastly, "Coulottes are Laodician because they are neither pants nor skirt."

I will not be brought into bondage. I will enjoy the liberty that Christ gave me. I will also enjoy the power of the Holy Spirit that I feel (yes, feel) in the music that we sing. If you don't want instruments, ok. It's not commanded. If you do, enjoy them! Sing to the Lord. Lift His name high. Worship Him with your whole heart. That's what He wants----our worship!

 

Have any one of you read the definition and derivation of G5568 in Strongs, Thayer, TDNT or any NT Greek dictionary?

Try it. See if that affects this discussion.

 

Another crazy musician. Excellent. My daughter is still too embarrassed, or cool, to play music with her dad, but she took 6 years of piano lessons, and she has a mandolin and an electric guitar.


I think the music in heaven will be string based, with horns & cymbals as kind of calls to worship, or feast, but not used in the regular music. Acoustic string music is the most beautiful form, to me, without any effects or tricks.

 

Well I took the time to read all twenty pages and if i were sitting on the jury I would have no choice but to allow the instruments into the worship.

I do have a question for "defenderofthefaith"...

In light of your basic argument, which is God's NT word does not give instructions to use instruments with singing in worship (as a tool or anything else) and therefore it is so obviously prohibited, why is it you find the use of "male" song leaders in worship ok with God's word since this also is not commanded in God's word concerning the singing of worship songs unto the Lord?

Where does God's word instruct you to use song leaders in this worship? And where does God's word instruct you to use only male song leaders in this worship?

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Steaver, I have to go with you on this.

Defender, you have the high ground on every thread you have started--except this one. Hardly anyone on this board will cut you that much slack, so you know my reaction is not the usual knee jerk, "It's CoC doctrine so it must be wrong." You cannot prevail on this issue under any objective reading of scripture and I think you and your fellow CoC apoligists would use your time and efforts more effectively by advocating those things that do have at least a scintilla of scriptural support.

 

I know I have been hit and miss on this thread, but please excuse me. I haven't been online much this week due to flu, holidays, etc. But this is something I mentioned a few pages back.

Defender answered that the word had changed meanings when Paul used it.

So we are supposed t0 believe that the Holy Spirit inspired Paul to use a work psallo which implies music in regard to singing psalms, which traditionally used music, to mean singing without music, when he could have used the word ado instead.

Yea, I'm convinced:thumbs:

 

Except that none of my biblical dictionaries gives a primary definition that does not include musical instruments, or states that the meaning had changed by the time Paul used the word, and for which the accompaniment instructions, instrumental recommendations, and tunes are actually in the writings themselves.

Selah! :)

 

I'll clang my cymbols to that. :thumbs:

 

His answer is proof that he cannot support his view without distorting the scriptures. As soon as one claims "definition changes" of original Hebrew or Greek they have outright lost the debate.

God Bless! :thumbsup:

 

Don't leave out the drums. Contrary to many popular opinions, drums are mentioned many times in the bible ("timbrel"; a hand drum, not a tambourine).

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Don't get me wrong; I fully believe that drum sets are incorrectly used, especially in worship services. I used to be a percussionist; started out on snare drum, graduated to trap set, received a music scholarship for percussion; graduated to marimba, xylophone, and vibraphone; then joined the military, and haven't played in 20 years. With that background, I believe myself qualified to say that most drummers don't realize that they're not the center of the musical piece; and that any drums used are to keep the other instruments in time, and to support the main parts/voices of the piece being played. In fact, I'm looking for a piccolo snare to get my 9-year old son; but he'll use brushes instead of standard drumsticks.