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Are you saying that are the "real Jews?"
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Jews follow Talmudic Judaism which is antichrist in principle.
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Jesus had no body until then?
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There are saved Jews and saved Gentiles in the Church!
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not as the Church itself!
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“Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” Jude 5 (ESV)
The Congregation of the Lord is his body in both covenants.
“This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:” Acts 7:38 (KJV 1900)
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But only by faith in Christ. The rest of the Jews believe Jesus is boiling in excrement in hell as we speak. Do you really think they did not forfeit the promises again in this?
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“Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” Jude 5 (ESV)
The Congregation of the Lord is his body in both covenants.
“This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:” Acts 7:38 (KJV 1900)
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Again, the Church was instituted on earth at day of Pentacost!
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Do you believe Paul, who stated that they would be in blindness for now, but God still has future dealings for them as a people?
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The "real Jews" lived before the Garden of Eden. The original sons of God.
Now there are rebellious Jews.
John 10:34-35
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Psalms 82:5-7
5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
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These are not Jews, they are Christians. Jew = Talmudic Judaism.
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He doesn't say what you want him to say. "All Israel will be saved" are believers only. Unbelievers are not Israel. Believers are Israel.
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It was the Kingdom. The church was here from Abel's time on.
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One kepts their Jewishness when saved, as are now seen as completed jews!
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Peter and paul stated that God still has dealings with national israel!
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nope, as cannot be the Church until Messiah came, died, rose, and ascended back!
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nope, as cannot be the Church until Messiah came, died, rose, and ascended back!
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Prove it from scripture.
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Paul says God removed them from Biblical Israel. Peter was instrumental in preaching to those circumcised before Jesus abolished circumcision on the cross. Study if you don't understand this.
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They lost their Jewishness when Christ abolished circumcision on the cross.
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Nope. And it's an extremely misleading and mistaken headline. The article does not say what the headline does.