NASA Study Acknowledges Solar Cycle, Not Man, Responsible for Past Warming

[Revmitchell]

Some researchers believe that the solar cycle influences global climate changes. They attribute recent warming trends to cyclic variation. Skeptics, though, argue that there's little hard evidence of a solar hand in recent climate changes.

Now, a new research report from a surprising source may help to lay this skepticism to rest. A study from NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland looking at climate data over the past century has concluded that solar variation has made a significant impact on the Earth's climate. The report concludes that evidence for climate changes based on solar radiation can be traced back as far as the Industrial Revolution.

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[LadyEagle]

Alas, it's too late. We already are going to have to change our a/c system coolants, go to the spiral light bulb thingys, drive little baby cars on the roads, and be over taxed on our electricity and fuel thanks to the pea brains of Congress and the WH. Oh, and don't forget cutting beef out of our diets, as well, because of all this fake going green Al Gore junk. I suppose Congress will try to legislate and tax the sun, next. :BangHead:

 

[OldRegular]

The tree huggers are closet pantheists and will never be influenced by facts.

 

[billwald]

Say that NASA had concluded that God was causing global warming because humans had not used due care with HIS earth. What, then, would be the proper response to God?

Say that a river runs through your city. There have been 5 "100 year floods" in the last 10 years. Is it "unchristian" to take steps to mitigate flooding because God is causing the spring melt?

 

[LadyEagle]

Read your Bible. There will be REAL global warming one day when God destroys the earth by fire. Book of Revelation.

 

[Tom Butler]

Well, all I can say is, I'm shocked, and disillusioned. So global warming is not George W. Bush's fault, after all. Bummer.

 

[windcatcher]

This data has been around a while.

Most scientist involved in research which would place them in a position of being accepted as 'qualified analyst' by both public and scientific community..... are also employed in programs dependant on public funds, government grants, or corporate programs: Many who have already spoken out regarding the false or impeachable science of global warming have already been expunged from the payrolls, and are now easily labeled with the ridicule of being 'former disgruntled' employees..... which too many of the public willingly accepts without facing the possibility that some if not most of these people are courageous and outstanding people with high ethics, which place country and their fellow citizens, and the truth as being more important than the security of their own comfort and bread for their families: What a pity.......and a loss..... to us when so many of us accept what the political charlatans..... like Al Gore..... who have no expertise, can create a political agenda...... and develop a plan to capitalize on it.... by creating a business around 'carbon credits' which will keep him in both money and control for the rest of his days.... at the expense of the people ......some who were fooled.... and some who were not but who's voices were silenced to barely above a whisper, by those who publish, document, and propagandize the public through the controlled media.






How faithless is this generation........
Who neither believes in God or that he created the worlds and all that is within......
Who told us to be fruitful and mutiply and have dominion over, and to subdue......
Who gave us all that we needed for food and for healing upon the earth......
Who has the power and the faithfulness to perform all that he promises.....
But we are willing to be seduced by evil spirits who would tell us otherwise....and have us believing that we and our progeny are the enemies of creation. How like the liar who decieves us who is jealous that we were made in the image of God, and would work every evil to cause us to kill ourselves and each other for fear that we are too many or that God would not support us in that which he created! What fools so many among us are!

 

[targus]

Say that NASA had concluded that God was causing global warming because humans had not used due care with HIS earth. What, then, would be the proper response to God?

Say that a river runs through your city. There have been 5 "100 year floods" in the last 10 years. Is it "unchristian" to take steps to mitigate flooding because God is causing the spring melt?

Exactly how does one "mitigate" the sun?

Other than wearing sunblock that is.

 

[BigBossman]

While I believe that man has contributed to some environmental problems, I thought Al Gore's idea on global warming was more of a half truth. We had to have some kind of sudden global warming for the earth to come out of the Ice Age didn't we? Where was all of the green houses gases for all of this to occur?

 

[windcatcher]

Funny...... but the ad I'm seeing at the bottom of this page was just promoting "Creation Care for Pastors". I'm a little curious regarding its angle. ......So many things instead of being "Biblical-rex" are instead "Demon-nixed" (a play off of "is it real ....or is it memorex?") and perpetuating a systematic skewing of theology and false science which opens the door to deceptive beliefs and extremes of practice and control.


While Biblically we are instructed to be 'good stewards' of the earth..... it is not the earth only but also the resources...... BUT..... no where does it imply that we were meant to ever be overly encumbered in doing this: And some very simple and non-technological instructions were given which relates to rotating of crops and periodically 'vacationing' the farm lands to go fallow to rebuild the natural microbes and soil life which helps to cleanse, and ariates the soil, and breaks down the minerals, and restores the vegetation content.

 

[billwald]

How does one "mitigate" the sun? If the sun is causing climate change and climate change is altering rainfall and snow pack then it would be prudent to builds dams, dikes, and water storage where it would be effective and/or encourage people to move out of harm's way.

The sorts of things we grow for food in a particular area might have to be changed. For example, it would be stupid to continue to grow rice where there will be a water shortage.

 

[Ed Edwards]

The lies about the NASA report are on record at:
http://www.dailytech.com/NASA+Study...Responsible+for+Past+Warming/article15310.htm
The NASA article is found at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080512120523.htm
Sorry, Brother, but you read the two together and lies pop out all over the place about that report by // dailytech.com //
Here is one:
// Now, a new research report from a surprising source may help to lay this skepticism to rest. A study from NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland looking at climate data over the past century has concluded that solar variation has made a significant impact on the Earth's climate. //
Exactly, and the significant inpact is given in the NASA article as 25%.
My contributions made a significant impact last Sunday. I wasn't here at the first Sunday of the month, right after I get paid. So made my contribution on a low Sunday - where it became not my usual 2% of the budget but a wopping 22% of the budget (for the 'off Sunday').
Sorry, in general 25% is NOT considered 'significant'.
BTW, Even with man-made global warming going on, most of the warmth on the earth comes from the sun (I mean like over 98%) and is reflected & or dissipated away from the Earth.
Here is a quote of the NASA report in the dailytech report:
// "The fluctuations in the solar cycle impacts Earth's global temperature by about 0.1 degree Celsius, slightly hotter during solar maximum and cooler during solar minimum. The sun is currently at its minimum, and the next solar maximum is expected in 2012." //
Duh! no corresponding data is given from the NASA report comparing the +0.1-degree-Celsius rise to any other number.
// Over the past century, Earth's average temperature has increased by approximately 0.6 degrees Celsius (1.1 degrees Fahrenheit). //
Oh, six times more than the amount caused by the 'Sun'.
Here in fact is what the NASA report says which totally contradicts the dailytech.com lies:
// Since then, there seems to have been on average a slow increase in solar activity. Unless we find a way to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases we put into the atmosphere, such as carbon dioxide from fossil fuel burning, the solar influence is not expected to dominate climate change. //
Reminds me of the book I read that proves that the earth is shaped more like a donut, with the holes at the North Pole and South Pole. They Quote Admiral Admunston who had visited both poles. The good Admiral knew very well that the earth is a sphere. But the same misquote is used 180 times as the the main argument of the 'book'.
Sorry folks, cow belches are warming up the earth.
I recall the Oklahoma Cattleman's Asso. adverting "REAL MEN eat beef". Of course, they never bothered to note that real men who eat only beef (every meal, no chicken or fish) are way more likely to die in thier late 40s or early 50s from heart attacks and strokes than the rest of us guys who actually eat their vegies & fruits.

 

[targus]

How does one "mitigate" the sun? If the sun is causing climate change and climate change is altering rainfall and snow pack then it would be prudent to builds dams, dikes, and water storage where it would be effective and/or encourage people to move out of harm's way.

The sorts of things we grow for food in a particular area might have to be changed. For example, it would be stupid to continue to grow rice where there will be a water shortage.

I would agree with that.