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Nascar is back

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ccrobinson

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Las Vegas has produced nothing but parades since the first race there in 1998. However, Bruton Smith is going to be spending $300 million to upgrade the track, probably beginning after Sunday. One of the improvements is to change the track configuration, i.e. more banking, and that should make for better racing. But, Vegas has the same problem that Fontana does. The cars are too aero dependent and it mucks up the racing, turning it into a parade.

Rumor at one time was that once these upgrades happened, Vegas was going to get a 2nd date on the schedule. Considering that there were so many empty seats at Fontana last week, perhaps Nascar will discard the 2nd race at Fontana in favor of 2 visits to Las Vegas.

Better yet, work the schedule so that the Darlington race, at one time known as the Southern 500, goes back to Labor Day weekend. Trashing the Southern 500 for no good reason was, and still remains, a travesty.
 
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swaimj

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Hey CC, I agree that the Las Vegas race will probably be another parade. I'll be perfectly happy to eat crow, though!

I also agree that it is a shame that the Southern 500 is no more. It provided some of the most dramatic moments in NASCAR history.

BTW, I attended the 1976 Southern 500 when I was 12 years old. What a thrill to see Petty (who passed Waltrip off the last turn to beat Waltrip for 2nd), Pearson (who won, becoming only the second driver in NASCAR history to score the triple crown), Yarborough (who crashed he, he!) and the gang. I went home with a bad sunburn and tiny pieces of rubber in the pores of my skin!
 
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Bob Alkire

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Originally posted by swaimj:
I also agree that it is a shame that the Southern 500 is no more. It provided some of the most dramatic moments in NASCAR history.
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I believe Darlington is where you see the best racing. How many have had it won and ended up into the wall all on their own? Great place to watch a race, Atlanta would be next as far as racing goes.
 
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ccrobinson

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While on the treadmill for the last week or so, I've been watching the 1994 Winston 500 at Talladega, broadcast by ESPN. Now, I don't necessarily mean to wax rhapsodic about how wonderful ESPN was, because they made their own mistakes from time to time. However, their broadcasts, in general, were superior in almost every way to the nonsense we have to put up with now.

Yesterday before the race, Dick Berggren told us not to count out Jimmie Johnson. Who are these people counting him out? He won last year; finished 2nd at Fontana; and generally runs well at 1.5 mile tracks. Who's counting him out? Apparently Berggren was trying to reassure those of us who don't have a brain.

Berggren then throws it to Zelasko. She ha-has that she can't believe we haven't talked about RCR and DEI yet. She basically goes on to say that they suck. So, nonsense like this is what passes for pit reporting these days. It makes me long for the days of Punch and even Kernan on ESPN.

Does anybody else think that DW has become tired of Boogity-Boogity-Boogity? He almost forgot it. Larry almost forgot his "pull those belts tight" line. I bet some suit had to remind them of it.

For the first couple of laps of the race, when Stewart and Biffle were swapping the lead, I had some hope that we weren't in for a parade. Those hopes were quickly dashed, though it appears that the GWC probably saved the race, unless you're a Kenseth or Roush fan.

Some might say that next week at Atlanta will be the first real racing we've seen this year. I disagree. The first real racing we've seen this year was the Bahrain Grand Prix, the first F1 race of the season.

It was a pretty good race. There was passing; battles for the lead; a charge from the back from Kimi; and a rookie scoring a point in his very first F1 race. I never thought I'd see the day when I thought an F1 race was more exciting than a Nascar race.
 
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Scott J

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LV boring... somewhat.

However... any time Junior finishes 27th and Stewart finishes 21st in the same race... it's been a good day. Stewart being mad at Kyle Busch was just a bonus.

Not too hard to figure out how to beat Tony Stewart... get into his head.
 
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PastorSBC1303

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Don't forget any day that Jeff Gordon does not win is a good day


Dale Jr. actually had a pretty good day for that type of track, until he went too fast on pit lane on that last caution.

Stewart will still be in the mix before long!
 
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Scott J

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Originally posted by PastorSBC1303:
Don't forget any day that Jeff Gordon does not win is a good day


Dale Jr. actually had a pretty good day for that type of track, until he went too fast on pit lane on that last caution.

Stewart will still be in the mix before long!
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I don't know... I was pleased with the 24's performance- Fifth place finish moving him up 6 places in the points to 8th.
 
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Scott J

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Originally posted by PastorSBC1303:
As long as I do not have to see him jumping around in victory lane it is a good day. Seeing #48 do it is bad enough
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I bet you will really hate it if you have to see him smiling on stage at the Cup banquet... :D

If 27th is a "win" for Junior then certainly 5th is a win for Gordon considering they've both struggled at these same types of tracks since the aero rule and tire changes a few years ago.
 
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PastorSBC1303

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If 27th is a "win" for Junior
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I did not say that Junior had a "win". I said that he had a good day UNTIL that speeding on pit lane knocked him back with just a couple laps to go. Obviously 27th is terrible. But if he had not had that speeding penalty he would have been in the top 15, maybe even top 10. And right now at 11 in the points standing, and considering two of the races have taken place at tracks he struggles with, I would say he is doing pretty good and set to make a good run for the remainder of the season.

I bet you will really hate it if you have to see him smiling on stage at the Cup banquet...
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Yep, it would drive me nuts. Probably as nuts as it made you seeing Tony Stewart smiling on stage this past year :D
 
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Scott J

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Originally posted by standingfirminChrist:
What does NASCAR stand for?
Non-Athletic Sport Centered Around REDNECKS
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No problem except for the "non-athletic" part.

If you don't think it is athletic then try 4 hours in a NASCAR yourself and see if you have the endurance... oh yeah, with 42 other cars going 180+ within inches of you on all 4 sides.

Or better yet, grab a jack or a tire or an air gun and pull a pit stop in less than 16 seconds.
 
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ccrobinson

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ccrobinson posted somewhere around page 4 or 5:

athlete - A person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength, agility, and endurance, that are necessary for physical exercise or sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts.

Strength? Check.
Endurance? Check.
Agility? Not so much.

The only agility required is to be able to get into and out of a racecar. And if it's on fire, the quicker you get out, the better.

Using the classic definition, I've never thought of racecar drivers as athletes. My father once called them the last of the gladiators, or modern day gladiators if you will, and I think the thought has some merit. Racecar drivers may lack the agility to be considered athletes by the classic definition, but they do have something that pro players in other sports don't necessarily have. Nerve. Guts. These guys, and girls, put their lives on the line everytime they strap into a car. Of course, there are other words I can use to describe this that I won't in mixed company.
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I still stand by these words. I don't consider the drivers to be athletes by a strict definition of the word, but it's preposterous to say that they're non-athletic. I guess I should be used to hearing comments like that about Nascar, but the mean-spiritedness of it is what annoyed me.

If you don't like Nascar, you have every right to not post here, instead of inserting a silly comment in the middle of a thread where people who enjoy Nascar have been posting.


(PS. To give proper credit, PastorSBC posted the last paragraph on page 3 of this thread, and I liked it so much I adopted it as my response here.)
 
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ccrobinson

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I would have, but my employer frowns on watching TV while at work.


Does anybody know if/when Fox is going to re-broadcast the race?
 
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PastorSBC1303

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Well I got to watch it because Monday is my day off


I was hoping Mark Martin would get by Kahne and win. Good day for Dale Jr, Stewart, and Gordon.
 
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