Good grief...don't use context! It messes up a good rant!
:D
Nativity Scenes and the Second Commandment
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Dale-c, Dec 19, 2007.
Page 3 of 12
-
It seems that many who think nativity scenes, crosses, etc., are a problem...
1. Are ignoring that said items aren't being worshipped.
2. Are going to have problem with any art that depicts anything religious whatsoever. -
My nativity scene represents the birth of Christ. I do not worship it, I worship what and who it represents.
I have pictures in my house of my children and grandchildren. I do not love the pictures, but I do love the people they represent.
I have not made any of them idols and I do not bow down before them or pray to them... -
Why not? It is inherently religious to make an image of Christ. -
PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU. -
And a hearty AMEN!, Dan!
-
Actually, I think Rbell worships that sotp sign beside his namd on his post. Why else would it be everywhere like that?
-
Are you?
PLease read that article I posted if you are so insistent on others "paying attention"
What others are telling me is that they are above idolatry and I am saying that they are not. -
C'mon, Dale-c, quit duckin' me. Whose image is that (whom you obviously adore, if not worship) that keeps showing up on your posts?
-
Good question!
Is that an image you bow down to, Dale, or is it a reminder of someone you love? -
-
Did you read the article?
-
Are people violating the second or third commandment here?
Are they using God vainly or are they committing idolatry?
It must be one or the other. -
-
Although, I did notice this one quote....that is the OPINION of the article, and illustrates my point:
"Therefore, any image of our Lord would be automatically religious or devotional in nature. As such it would immediately fall under the biblical perimeter of the regulative principle of worship." (6th paragraph...second sentence)
You are speaking to everyone here as if this statement is blanket truth....when it is merely this author's opinion. You are also speaking with the assumption that the formation of an idol is the same as a nativity scene.....which is your opinion....and requires a little hermeneutical gymnastics to demonstrate biblically. -
-
Exo 20:4
(4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:
If we take this literally without applying verse 5, any photograph is breaking the law...
For it is a likeness of something in earth..
Dale, you are taking it out of context when you don't apply the worship principle found in verse 5.
But to make everyone happy that don't feel comfortable with nativity scenes.. here is what I will do....
Instead of a nativity scene, I will put up a big blow up Santa Claus and Frosty the Snowman...
Neither one breaks this commandment since neither are real... Neither one can be found "in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:"
NOT!!!...
I will keep my nativity scene up.
Dale, notice the colon after the word "earth"...
that means there is more to this commandment than verse 4... you have to tie verse 5 to it...
Which means we are to not make things in order to worship them.
When someone kneels in front of my nativity scene, I will pick up the image of Joseph, and bop them over the head, and give them this commandment...
But until then... the nativity scene reminds our family what Christmas is truly about... Jesus Christ. -
Leave it up, he can close his eyes when he drives by.
-
Dale, I did read the article and it says nothing about the cross that hangs in my house, only pictures of Christ, which I do not have.
Personally, I don't like pics of Christ because they are nothing more than someone's opinion of what He looked like and I think there is a reason why God didn't allow for images of Christ to be made. However, I will not judge another for having images of Christ in their posession. Of course it is wrong to make images of our Lord into idols. But I am in much more danger of making idols of other things in my life.
Pictures are only representations of the real thing, unless you're a little off in the head. :) -
I'd suggest that there are more likely things like Bible translations held up as idols than a blow up nativity scene in someone's front yard.
Page 3 of 12