So now Americans can be killed by our own government without due process of law?
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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by NaasPreacher (C4K), Sep 30, 2011.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I argued when the Bush administration passed the Patriot Act that is was a most dangerous act and with passage took many civil rights away from the American people. I condemned by many on this BB for that stance. We now see, IMHO, that I was correct and that this act has been taken to an even higher level, the denial of life to American citizens without due process.
While I do not defend Anwar al-Awlaki and believe he was a most horrible person, he was an American citizens as he was born in the US. I do not see how anyone can defend the killing of an American citizen, no matter how terrible that person is, without due process. This is a very slippery slope for all American citizens.
Yes, it is a huge loss to the terrorist organization, but is that worth the slippery slope this has put the US on concerning its own citizens? -
InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I have mixed feelings on this. The man the U.S. killed is certainly a link in the chain of terrorism. However, his crime seems to be speech:
He was involved in several terror plots in the United States in recent years, using his fluent English and Internet savvy to draw recruits to carry out attacks.
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Known as an eloquent preacher who spread English-language sermons on the Internet calling for "holy war" against the United States, al-Awlaki's role was to inspire and -- it is believed -- even directly recruit militants to carry out attacks. He was not believed to be a key operational leader, but as a spokesman.
This is going to be interesting to watch. While we as Christians decry Islamic states that persecute Christian preachers and missionaries, we find it expedient to kill one of their preachers.
I trust the U.S. has ironclad evidence indicting this person for more than simply preaching on the Internet, otherwise, this is a sad day for civil liberties. -
Wow! Neither did Hitler get due process.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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And it's cross party, Bush policy carried out by Obama.
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Either way the op ignores some facts to make an incorrect point. -
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Do you support President Obama's decision to kill an American without a trial? -
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He should have been indicted. Some court should have seen the evidence against a male who was giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Then this should have been carried out.
This was not against some upstanding American who has a different political view. This now even more useless piece of trash should have gotten some form of due process, no matter what kind of vermin he was.
How's that for walking both sides of the arguement? :smilewinkgrin: -
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Both articles are contradictory. They admit such decisions to kill al-Awlaki were "state secrets", yet they also state the President ordered his killing. Which is it, a secret or known?
Also, the predator's targeted the entire convoy of AQ. They are our enemies during a time of war. Should they have surrounded the convoy and arrested everyone and sorted out who was American at the station?
This is a complete non-issue. What was needed was done, and one instance Obama should not catch grief, IMO. -
Americans deserve due process of law, now matter how bad the crime. Once we discard that right we are all in serious danger. -
One question - can a US president now ignore the courts and order the execution of US citizens? -
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If due process is no longer a constitutional right, no matter what the cost, we are in trouble folks. -
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