I'm sure that would be a greater amont.
Evidently RS is not able to think outside the box
Non-citizens sue, claim of "constitutional rights"
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by rbell, Dec 1, 2010.
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Remember...the immigrants in this case are legal residents.
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Army = group box think! -
and my uniform - oh, boy the story behind that.
Yes, I did live of the taxes of others
but
1. I actually worked for my money unlike some other who receive a "green" check
2. I actually paid taxes on what I EARNED
BY THE WAY have you made a visit to your local US Marine recruiting station to inform them of what you think of them?
Sarge
PS, I also served in a military reserve unit for about 6 years without getting paid - in fact it cost me as I was not reimbursed for uniforms, travel, time off work, ect. -
The judge is trying to legislate from the bench.
Just a thought ...I wonder how many indigent immigrants moved to Connecticut just to get a free ride on medical care??? -
You sure seem touchy; it's not my fault you enlisted. It seems to upset you to be reminded that the military lives off taxes. Sorry, that's just the facts!
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:tonofbricks: :tonofbricks: :tonofbricks:
You just dont understand do you.
I am not touchy - but why is it wrong to earn a living off the taxpayers. So what you are saying is that President Obama should be ashamed of getting a paycheck from the US govt? (and I'm not even talking about the 1/2 of his Senate term he was running for POTUS)
and its a shame you do not have one charitable bone:tear:
Us military folks may make fun of the Marines, but you might be surprised at how mature they really are. And even Marines EARN their paycheck and to quote someone "Sorry, that's just the facts!" )
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It's obvious Robert has distaste and hostility for ministers of the Gospel, and for those serving in the military.
Perhaps some therapy would help.
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Just because someone doesn't tear up every time the military is mentioned, or someone doesn't seem as gung ho as you doesn't mean they hate the military.
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So why didnt you say that to begin with?
Sarge
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The problem is that once a poster is identified as a "liberal" everything said is twisted, especially by posters like yourself, Targus and Rbell, let alone Carpro.
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Army = group box think! -
Perhaps I should have worded it better, I apologize. But, to be in the military is to live off tax money, not that it's wrong. I don't think I ever said anything about someone in the sense being a dead beat, or not earning their pay. -
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Back to the OP. . .
This kind of thing, if not nipped in the bud, is going to take us to civil war. -
Actually, from my vantage point it's some of the newer stuff that needs to be "reconsidered". But, not because it will be ineffective. But, because the regulations and procurement policies add years and exhorbitant costs to actually getting something fielded.
Making things worse is that technology is now changing so rapidly that the technologically based weapons systems design and approval teams can barely keep things current.
We could save Billions, IMHO, by fixing and streamlining the design Approval and procurement system and policies.
Youtr point is well taken, though.
Even the Military hazmat program is crazy.
Stuff you and I can buy at Wal-Mart and store anywhere at home cannot even be brought to work. Instead we have to use "Certified" and "Approved" useless junque that doesn;t work and costs at least four times as much!
Even Whiteout, for crying out loud!
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In many purchases, the paperwork and certification costs more than the item. The grandkids of the people who built the B-52s are now flying them. The Air Force didn't buy 40 year's worth of spare parts for them while they were in production. If a flight mechanic needs a routine screw, nut, or bolt to fix something he can't buy it at Lowes for a dollar. The paperwork probably will cost $100 or more.
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The courts and legislatures are no longer abiding by certain principals:
If they were..... then they would recognize that all men have inalienable rights.... and then the citizens of the country have an additional constitutional rights which are namely this to be brief...... those powers not specified to any of the three branches of government or to the states belong to us: There is an overlap in certain areas of inalienable and those specified.... for an example.... regardless of citizenship, a person has the right to own and protect his own property and life: regardless of citizenship, a person should have the right to a trial by jury.... to present evidence in his defense... but a jury of "peers' is an area of question. A non-citizen has the rights of free speech & to practice his religion...but he doesn't have the right to vote. Medicare and medicaid laws are not a power granted by the constitution.... they are legal but not lawful,.... but try to get a court to pass on that one... or try to get citizens now accustomed to expect these services to be available... and because of which practice since enactment, have skewed the economics & avaiablity of insurance to the aged from remaining within an average persons power to obtain & keep for himself.... to give it up. However, if a non-citizen has potential for contagion... or has a life threatening medical event, it serves the good of noone except the public purse to deny medical treatment to save a life or to contain disease. An illegal alien should not expect the same protections: In a just society, he may be expected to be treated in a fair & humane way.... but, as he's already violated the law of legal entrance.. he should not expect to be owed any more than another criminal: however, even as a criminal... as it is practiced, criminals seem to have somewhat greater securities & assurances put in place by government than the law abiding citizen may count on.
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