98%? Mis-Information! It is false. It is 93%.Originally posted by Orvie:
Over 98% of N.T. MSS are in agreement, no matter which Family of MSS are used. (the other 2% are non essentials, i.e. not vital doctrines
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98%? Mis-Information! It is false. It is 93%.Originally posted by Orvie:
Over 98% of N.T. MSS are in agreement, no matter which Family of MSS are used. (the other 2% are non essentials, i.e. not vital doctrines
Not, "Who???" But, "What???"Askjo wrote:
quote:Originally posted by Trotter:
"King James Verion Only", the cancer of Christianity.
Who???
When you read the Bible if you do not understand some verses contradicting each other, how would you understand what the Bible said between these verses?Originally posted by natters:
30,000 chariots or 3,000 chariots does not affect my faith.
The NIV omitted 1 John 5:7 because its Greek text following the W/H text where an unitarian rejected this verse. The KJV did not add a part of Jude 1:25. These MVS added it because the NU text added it and omitted "wise."The NIV missing 1 John 5:7 or the KJV missing half of Jude 1:25 does not make me question my relationship with Christ.
As He has. Your pious phrases notwithstanding, the Spirit of God has led me to reject you as being a proclaimer of a false teaching, error, schism and doctrinal perversion.Originally posted by michelle:
John 16, and 17 - I recommend that you study, pray and meditate upon these verses in the KJB. The Holy Spirit leads us to all truth. He does not lead us to error and then have a compromise error. He will prompt us to separate from and reject the error.
Sorry, Askjo, your statement is incorrect.Originally posted by Askjo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by natters:
[qb]The NIV omitted 1 John 5:7 because its Greek text following the W/H text where an unitarian rejected this verse.</font>The NIV missing 1 John 5:7 or the KJV missing half of Jude 1:25 does not make me question my relationship with Christ.
I agree with Michelle because I found many doctrines were affected by most MVs. These MVs twisted Jesus' name in the NT 200 times!Originally posted by natters:
michelle said "My Final Authority does not attack the doctrines of the deity of my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The modern versions do."
No they don't.
Interesting!Originally posted by michelle:
Based upon the history of it's use and acceptance and belief within the churches, and the EVIDENCE of it still today. Are you saved as the KJB informs you? Or are you "being" saved as the NIV informs you? Is Jesus Christ THE morning star as the KJB informs you? Or is Jesus Christ who is THE morning star falling from Heaven as the NIV informs you? Do you know that to be baptized in water, you must first believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God as the KJB informs you? Or are you left wondering. Are your sins forgiven you through the blood of Jesus Christ? Or are your sins just forgiven? Are there three that bear witness in Heaven: The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost? Was Jesus Christ equal with God as a man? Or was Jesus not grasping to be God as a man?
If the NIV contradicts with 2 verses reflecting the morning star, God contradicts Himself.Originally posted by michelle:
Jesus Christ is THE MORNING STAR in both the KJB and the NIV. However, the NIV shows you that THE MORNING STAR falls from heaven. Sorry, that is blasphemy.
MVs omitted the important part of Col 1:14 concerning the blood of Jesus Christ.You show your confusion. How are you forgiven? Is it through the shed blood of Jesus Christ, or not? If it is, then how can you accept this version as your final authority, when it has deleted this important truth? There is NO EXCUSE for this. You are justifying, and compromising with error, to which we are commanded not to do.
356 false doctrinal passages and errors in WH text, UBS and NA text are affected in MVs.Originally posted by LarryN:
For approximately the 573rd time- would you provide even one example of how any MV attacks the Deity of Jesus. If you won't, then why not cease making this spurious accusation once and for all.
No version deletes this important truth. Distortion! Michelle refers to Col. 1:14.Originally posted by natters:
We are forgiven throught the shed blood of Jesus. No version deletes this important truth. Has Eph 4:32 in the KJV deleted this important truth? It does not mention the blood.
Distortion again! I checked MVs on Eph. 4:32. They did not say anything about the blood.Has Eph 4:32 in the KJV deleted this important truth?
Natters, Michelle is right. W/H were heretics and apostates in old time. Also Dr. Metzger and others today.Originally posted by natters:
Michelle said "HERETICAL AND APOSTATE MEN who were RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UNDERLYING TEXTS AND METHODS used for TRANSLATION of the modern versions, to which evidences their APOSTATE VIEWS concerning our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and their hatred toward his preserved words"
This is completely untrue.
Natters, Michelle is right. W/H were heretics and apostates in old time. Also Dr. Metzger and others today. </font>[/QUOTE]Amen, Brother Natters -- Preach it!Originally posted by Askjo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by natters:
Michelle said "HERETICAL AND APOSTATE MEN who were RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UNDERLYING TEXTS AND METHODS used for TRANSLATION of the modern versions, to which evidences their APOSTATE VIEWS concerning our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and their hatred toward his preserved words"
This is completely untrue.
"Corrupt the word of God" is as NOT SAME as "peddling the word of God." I researched and still write 11 pages concerning 2 Cor. 2:17. I found massive information favoring "corrupt" than "peddle." You need to look at Will Kinney's answer on 2 Cor. 2:17 in his website and find "Many which Corrupt the word of God." Will wrote 4 pages on 2 Cor. 2:17. His essay on this subject is very excellent.Originally posted by Orvie:
2 Cor 2:17 ESV Yeah, go to those KJVO sites, and see for yourself the peddling! i.e. "Don't trust those MV's...only buy the KJV, from us"![]()
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You pointed off what I talked about foreign Bible translations. I did not talk about MVs.Originally posted by Orvie:
...and so do we....KJV, NKJV, ESV....I thank God that He is able and willing to speak to me in today's English.
That is very obvious correct.Originally posted by C4K:
Point made - techincally God inspired the original scriptures and moved holy men of God to record them.
98%? Mis-Information! It is false. It is 93%. </font>[/QUOTE]93%? Mis-Information! It is false. It is 98%Originally posted by Askjo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Orvie:
Over 98% of N.T. MSS are in agreement, no matter which Family of MSS are used. (the other 2% are non essentials, i.e. not vital doctrines
You believe Will Kinney over theOriginally posted by Askjo:
"Corrupt the word of God" is as NOT SAME as "peddling the word of God." I researched and still write 11 pages concerning 2 Cor. 2:17. I found massive information favoring "corrupt" than "peddle." You need to look at Will Kinney's answer on 2 Cor. 2:17 in his website and find "Many which Corrupt the word of God." Will wrote 4 pages on 2 Cor. 2:17. His essay on this subject is very excellent.