Obama Endorses Homosexuality

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AMEN, AMEN, and AMEN!!!
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The LOVE and MERCY, and PATIENCE of God are well publicized and heralded! But it's slim to none the chance that you'll hear a sermon on God's wrath, judgment, or anger anymore.

Those who are depending ONLY on the first listed attributes of God are going to be rather upset when they suddenly realize - too late - that all that sweetness and light that they had been promised by the liberals, has another aspect to it that was never explained to them.

 

The title of this thread is false. There is a huge difference between endorsing homosexuality and endorsing homosexual human beings.

 

you must not have read the quote I was posting too.

 

I'm sorry but I must disagree with many of the posters in here that believe there is gay bashing going on in this thread. I've served and worked for the military for almost 30 years now and homosexual behavior is not allowed in the military. Clinton pushed for this "don't ask, don't tell" policy and got it passed, but it still is punishable to be openly gay. This is the military we are talking about, not the local bank or grocery store. Discipline is one of the first things learned in basic training and without it, the military would fail. To allow openly gay men/women in would degrade the discipline in my opinion. It is immoral just as much as doing drugs or having an affair if married, and these are punishable also. Now I know some will say that much immoral behavior is allowed, but this immoral behavior you speak of is not punishable. It's not punishable to sleep around or get drunk or many other thinks we as Christians disapprove of, but this is the military's set rules, either abide by them or stay out. Remember we are talking about sexual behavior, this is a choice and if a man or woman wants to choose to be gay then they forfeit their ability to qualify for military service, unless they keep quite about it.

I tell you what is really wrong. I would bet that 60-80% of the military right now is unqualified to serve. I know most men and women lie to get in. They lie about drug usage and health issues and even dependency issues. They lie to get in, but gay's don't have to lie anymore like they used to, because Clinton allows them to "not tell". hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I really think this is all wrong. If you want to serve the in greatest military in the world, then stay clean to qualify. That was always my message to young kids. :wavey:

 

It Takes a Gay, to Support and Embrace Gays...

This sin is so involved with perversion, that it takes someone in bed with it (homosexuality), to support and embrace it!

I said this in 2007, and in 2008, I think Obama leans toward homosexuality. Only time will tell if I'm right, but, Rev. Ted Haggard, Jimmy Swaggart, and Paul Crouch (TBN) all dabbled their feet in the cesspool with perversion.

I have no doubt that Obama has something to hide, and time will bring it to the forefront. How novel... he may be the first black, Muslim, and gay POTUS. The Muslim and gay issues are yet to be revealed, but, slick media investigators will bring it out if it's there to bring out.

Please don't hammer me for my opinion. It is simply an opinion. Let's call it a hunch!:thumbs:

Shalom,

Pastor Paul :type:

 

You May Be On To Something...

I can't disagree with you opinions. I believe as you. while we have a great military, made up of great folks willing to sacrifice all for America, there are those in the military that should not be there. This thing with drugs started in Nam. The military bases smelled like "pot dens" all across America in the late 1960's. This had to do with the draft taking anybody that had a heartbeat...:type:

 

In discussing this with my 87y/o dad.... USN retired vet of WWII and Korean War...... He tells me that men who were thought by others to be gay have always been in the military... and some of them were able to advance through the ranks.... but it wasnot something admitted to or openly allowed nor tolerated by the rank and file... if known for sure.

I see it as a moral issue and a morale issue, based upon discussions with my dad: A person who doesn't have the moral character to live within the discipline of behavior normally accepted by that group are in a position, by their own behavior, to not be trusted by others. Clinton's policy was already in effect..... in a way..... long before Clinton mouthed it off to others and increased the boldness of sodomites joining the military.

Up until recent years, ones sexuality was not a topic of open discussion. But sex education in schools and the aggressive sodomite agenda, has brought it to the forefront of publically discussed topics. What is seldom even touched on is that not only is the military's morale being affected..... but even the morale in the workplace of everyday Americans is being affected by the aggressiveness of the openly sodomite agenda. Sodomites, who prefer to wag their tale before others, who they know are heterosexuals or who have moral values built upon faith, such as those of Christians, often position themselves to undercut, undermine and otherwise discourage the recognition or the advancement of others who are not like themselves.

They are united by their peculiar behaviors against those who they oppose or who may stand in their way, and practices in the workplace such as sensitivity training and legislation adds power and protection to their willingness and lack of ethics to distort for the sake of promoting their own cause. Those whom they come most against are often those who not only think of sodomy as sin, but also have moral and ethical values such that they would not deliberately entrap or state a falsehood on another co-worker to create an environment of hostility.

When so much of military promotion and advancement is dependent on records of merit and reports of discipline, it is imperative that the soldier is able to trust and have confidence in that fraternal belief among peers... that they back each other with equality and that their commanding officers give honest apprasiels of their conduct without partiality to political correctness or private liasons.

Regarding the military now accepting many who herefofore would have been disqualified.... flies all across the board. Health issues become none issues when one is told 'don't ask, don't tell' by their recruiter, and the cursory military physical is more of an artifact to enable numbers to be recruited instead of screening out those with health problems which might be real issues of liability in war. I've heard (I hope I am wrong) that ex-felons and parolees are now being allowed to join the military. With our educational system being dumbed down as it is.... I also wouldn't be surprise if it is true that what I've heard ..... about those who have problems speaking English, and those with problems in literacy are now being accepted.

And now the zero thinks its alright to admit sodomites openly. How many of us would trust our lives or those of our children in fighting shoulder to shoulder WITH a person who may have problems with anger management, or difficulties in immediately understanding and obeying directions, or drug dependancies, or issues of morality, trust, and ethics? This is not a good thing for anyone.

 

Added to this problem is the normal 'body shuffle' which occurs between people who must work in close quarters and bump into each other. When you trust others as being heterosexual like you.... you accept that contact happens without ulterior motives. But once homosexuals are present.... you don't know when a bump is accidental or a deliberate pass. A complaint would likely get the heterosexual a reprimand and a course in sensitivity training. How does this improve morale? CTB also stated that to him it was no problem..... but how about the rest of the soldiers who had to bunk in the barracks by the hundreds while two were given special quarters and accommodations for their 'exercise'?

Ever have an 'I wish I said that' moment? Well said Trotter!:applause:

 

The other problem with letting homosexuals in the Military would be all the accusations of discrimination and harassment of those who do not accept their life style. The Military courts would become full of cases involving the false charged of homosexuals who are only trying to push their agenda further. It is bad enough outside of the Military. This would just push the Military into disarray.

 

Hitting the Showers.... 2gether???

The shower issue was exactly why I quit going to Balley's... and these were private shower enclosures. Whcih didn't stop the gay men from reaching in, or standing outside your stall and doing perverted things to get attention.

Management and police knew of the problem, and though the police ran numerous stings, they couldn't stop these guys from doing their thing.

Gays have one united cause, and it is to expand their perversion to the ends of the earth!

 

Yes, evil is evil...but some evil has more immediate and destructive consequences in certain situations than others.

Then we simply disagree.

There's simply no comparison between a day at the beach and life in the military. That's like comparing playing catch in my front yard with my nine year-old and a twenty-year NFL career.

Unfortunately, the gay lobby is working on that...(see "hate crimes.")

There we have our disagreement...I think the behavior will and does cause problems.

 

I don't think the shower issue can be used as a litmus test for gays in the military. I've been going to a health club for over 10 years, and never had an incident like that. Most folks who survuved high school or college gym, college dorms, etc, have never exprienced problems to that extent. Sure, they happen, I'm sure, but like anything else, I suspect they're the exception, not the rule.

 

I'm not sure really what to think. I'm sick and tired of using the military as a social experement. ITs the military and its function is to kill people and destroy things not promote social change. Those stupid polititians!

As far as gays in the Military. There have always been gays in the military but had the common sense to keep it quiet. Not jepordizing the cohesion necissary for proper operations. Now if this passes every gay wanting to prove a point will join the military. These type of people are by nature anti-establishment and will cause serious problems for our military. I'm sure there are gays not like that but I believe they will be the minority in the upcomming events of the future.

I don't like the arguement that a person who is gay by nature reduces the effectiveness of the military certainly the spartans were gay but were also very fierce. The problem as I see it in the US is that the one who want this passed are the anarchist type that will undermine the establishment by joining the military to cause a ruckus. Just like gays who purposely go to Christian Colleges to cause problems.

 

As always, you make good points.

 

Then the answer is simple: Have a zero tolerance for such activity in the military. If you attempt to engage in any homosexual activity in the course of military service, you're out. The question, howoever, seems to be whether it's necessary to bar anyone who itentifies himsef as homosexual as a prerequisite. There's a difference between being gay and engaging in gay bahavior. Certainly, most men in the military are heterosexual, but do not engage in heterosexual acts while in service. It would not be unreasonable, therefore, to expect of a gay man who enlists to refrain from gay activity during his service.