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Obama mocks Joe the Plumber

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by canadyjd, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. just-want-peace

    just-want-peace Well-Known Member
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    A fact conveniently, adamantly, and purposefully ignored by the socialist left!:BangHead:
     
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    Yes, as the Republicans do also. The Republicans, an alliance of Bush, McConnell, McCain, Obama, and the Democratic leadership in Congress crammed a 700 billion dollar bailout bill that will not work down our throats. No, make that 850 billion to buy the votes that rejected it the first time with 150 billion pork added. McCain must not have had his shiney veto pen handy, so he could make the pork authors famous.

    There is no difference between the two, from this issue or any other. Either you want the government run as the Consitution says or you don't.

    Oh, and by the way, Bush and his Republican Congress of six years spread more wealth around and created the greatest deficit in American history. Ronald Reagan was a great President, but one thing I fault him for doing. That was his selection for VP. Had he not picked Bush the First, this guy would never have made it to the Presidency.
     
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    If only we had a line item veto.....(sigh)

    I hope Joe the Plumber does well in this election. :)

    Maybe he should run for public office. On the Republican ticket. :)
     
  4. LeBuick

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    Where the statement has some socialist overtones, it is not true socialism and you know that. Another scare tactic that would work if only one person in this country went to school. I think this is part of McCain's problem this election, he keeps insulting the intelligance of the real Average Joe. It is politics to stretch the truth and another to make like everyone else is stupid.
     
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    Spread the wealtha round is a socialist statement, no matter how you slice it. Punish the rich.
     
  6. LeBuick

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    True, but his methodology is not socialist.
     
  7. canadyjd

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    We've already had democrat leaders in the house speak of nationalizing the oil industry and the health care industry.

    We are moving, step by step, toward socialism and Obama will move us even closer.

    BTW, Obama's comment on people "clinging to their guns and religion" is literally straight out of a socialist handbook. He has clearly embraced a socialist worldview.

    peace to you:praying:
     
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    It is absolutely socialism as is Obama
     
  9. LeBuick

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    So socialism is increasing the top 5% of the peoples taxes by 3%? That's socialism or are you just going by a statement made while campaigning?
     
  10. LeBuick

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    I think you're pointing firgers at the wrong people, Bush has taken us much further toward socialism than anyone in history. Buying parts of banks, buying companies, give me a break. You need to worry about your own house before pointing fingers at others, the republican house ain't so clean either.
     
  11. just-want-peace

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    Is it ever possible for you liberals to face facts squarely????

    I, as have many others, criticized Bush's policies on more than one occasion and condemned the creeping liberality of the R party.

    The fact that Bush has acted so "liberally" has squat to do with this election. For at least the 500th time, BUSH AIN'T RUNNING!!!!!!!

    The choice is between a moderate liberal, and a rabid liberal.

    Are you Obamaites so insecure that you can't debate HIS pluses/minuses (yes, he does have many minuses) without sidetracking the issue?

    Funny, but this seems (to me anyway) a big variance in a conservative / liberal take on the issues. I seldom (not never, but certainly rarely) see/hear a liberal denounce any action by the Ds, while the conservatives are ready to condemn the R once the case has been established. Established, mind you, not just reported by the NYT or such.:BangHead:
     
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    Socialism is wealth redistribution. Taking from one in order to give to another. It is evil and unconstitutional.
     
  13. LeBuick

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    True, but the conservative ideology is running and McCain represents that ideology. He keeps stating he will cut more high end taxes with hopes to rebound the econonmy and produce more jobs. That is exactly the concept we've been trying the last 8 years and we lost 160K jobs last month alone. It AIN't WORKING!

    Who is side tracking the issues? ACORN, Ayres, Joe the Plumber aren't liberal distractions, those are conservative attempts to "sidetrack" the issues. Now they are calling Obama a communist, Muslim and many other false names to include the Messiah. I am perfectly happy sticking to the economy, two wars, social security and the crises on wall street.
     
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    But that's not what's happening... He is simply raising taxes on the top 5% of the people. How is that redistributing the wealth.
     
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    And where will those taxes go to. I doubt you are that naive. By hs own admission it is exactly what will happen.
     
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    You referring to the $700 Bill bailout or the 10 Trillion deficet? How about the $10 Bill/mo we're spending in Iraq. Did you hear him say he would give those who don't work a check?
     
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    All entitlement programs are wealth redistribution. Add to that Obama the baby slaughtering supporter said it in his own words when talking with Joe the plumber.
     
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    Obama supporters have forgotten the role Democrats (starting with Bill Clinton) played in bringing about the crisis that caused the bail out. Pressure, pressure, pressure on lending institutions to give home loans to people who would not otherwise qualify. That has been documented in many threads.

    Obama supporters forget that even though there has been a Republican president for 8 years, the Democrats have controlled both houses for several years and did NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING to curtail the financial crisis. NOTHING. Easy to finger point at the other party. How about pointing fingers at your own liberal policies for a change? At least conservatives will be honest and admit when Republicans drop the ball. Liberals (Democrats) never want to accept responsibility for anything, it appears. Can I stomach more years of Nancy do-nothing screeching Pelosi or mean and hateful Harry Reed? Nope. God help us if we have our whole country controlled by Democrats - you think there are no jobs now and people are having it rough, you ain't seen nothing til you see socialists totally in power, people. Wake up!
     
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    How many of those years did the Reps control the White House and at least one
    house of congress? I think the Dems only took control of both houses in Jan 07.

    And the Reps did NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING for the SIX years they had the WH and at least one house of Congress!!!!
     
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    Then you are giving Obama all the credit for something the American government has been doing since before he was born. Bush' Faith Based Initiative would fit this definition.
     
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