Obama mocks Joe the Plumber

You have no clue how close he is. But keep telling yourself that. It sooths the conscience no matter how irrelevant it is.

 

Well, now, thanks to Obama and the obamedia probing into his personal life, Joe probably lost his job and he has a kid to support.

 

This is to Rev and LE...

Not being ready to by his company were Joe's words. You can be mad at Joe if you want but I figure he would know.

He'd probably need a license before he worries about a company.

 

That's like yelling to put me out of a bar. Doesn't hurt me since I'm not in a bar.

Joe doesn't have a business so he has nothing to be put out of.

 

But that door swings both ways. Since the GOP did not have 60 votes, the Dems could block whatever they want.

I believe it's high time those cloture rules are repealed so the Constitution (remember that little thing) can get back to work in both houses for the good of the people.

 

Nope you are wrong about McCain the only one with an actual conservative ideology dropped out of the race after both parties and the corporate media ridiculed and marginalized him and the true conservative ideology he represented. What you all are squabbling is over now is which social corporatist is the lesser of two evils.

 

Excuse me but there was only a Surplus in the budget but there were still DEBT owed when G.W. Bush came into office. And then there was Sept. 11th and Katrina ( along with people using it fraudulently) and the Tsunami and many other smaller Natural disasters that FEDERAL TAX money were sent to as well as the war. Which I remember G. W. Bush saying this will not be over night it will take years to win this war on terror and it will not be cheep it will cost a lot. And he didn't send us to war on his own nor did he make the decision by himself other people who were to bring him the information needed so it was a join decision. And a majority were behind him after 9/11.

 

That's true but it's been true since 1776.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt



The United States has had public debt since its inception. Debts incurred during the American Revolutionary War and under the Articles of Confederation led to the first yearly reported value of $75,463,476.52 on January 1, 1791. Over the following 45 years, the debt grew, briefly contracted to zero on January 8, 1835 under President Andrew Jackson but then quickly grew into the millions again.[18]

The first dramatic growth spurt of the debt occurred because of the Civil War. The debt was just $65 million in 1860, but passed $1 billion in 1863 and had reached $2.7 billion following the war. The debt slowly fluctuated for the rest of the century, finally growing steadily in the 1910s and early 1920s to roughly $22 billion as the country paid for involvement in World War I.[18]

The buildup and involvement in World War II brought the debt up another order of magnitude from $51 billion in 1940 to $260 billion following the war. After this period, the debt's growth closely matched the rate of inflation until the 1980s, when it again began to increase rapidly. Between 1980 and 1990, the debt more than tripled. The debt shrank briefly after the end of the Cold War, but by the end of 2005, the gross debt had reached $7.9 trillion, about 8.7 times its 1980 level.[19]

 

You know, I like the way you can step back and laugh at all of this at times...but still, please look at your answer, and re-think the scenario.

You're exactly right: He doesn't have a business, has nothing to be put out of. So why would Obama supporters yell something so cruel and idiotic?

No matter what we're all saying here: Joe's not the problem. The question is, how is Obama gonna help Joe?

 

True, you are correct that they are dumb for yelling the statement. I will be the first to admit there are embarrassing characters at every rally (both sides).

Joe makes just over $40K/yr. He will qualify for an Obama tax cut. So will his boss whose business is just under $100K/yr. Obama will also give Joe's boss a 50% tax credit to provide Joe health insurance and will get a $3000 credit if he hires a new employee. Contrary to McCain's smears, small businesses are exempt from the mandatory requirement to provide health insurance so there would be no penalty if his boss choses not to provide health care.

To be honest, and I hate to say this, not much different than he'd get under the McCain plan.

 

So true, so true.

Yup. Meet the new boss....

 

Why should Obama help Joe more than you or me? Joe is just a face in the crowd. He doesn't represent all of America or even most of it. He's a fabrication of McCain's to win political points. That's all.

 

You don't even know when you're wrong any more, do you?

"Joe is just a face in the crowd" -- just like you and me.

"He doesn't represent all of America or even most of it" -- why not? It could have been you that asked Barak that question. Or me. Or LeBuick. Or LadyEagle. Or C4K. So yeah, he does represent the "average joe."

"He's a fabrication of McCain's" -- nope, he's a real person--just like you and me.

You need to pull your head out of the hole you've buried it in, and realize that the issue is not Joe; it's how Obama answered the question, and what Obama has said about Joe since then.

 

Correction: McCain corrected one lady at one rally. There were many accusations that went uncorrected particularly at Palin rallies when McCain was not present. That was when she said Obama was palling around with terrorist. What you repeated was one of McCain's talking points that wasn't 100% correct.

Also, Obama did control his crowd when they began to boo the mention of McCain's name. He said, "we don't need that. What we need is to vote".

That is what you will get from Obama but you won't give him a fair chance to show you what he is capable of. Your mind will stay closed to his actions and open to criticism of everything he does which I believe is not very Christian like. If Obama makes office, and that is still a big in my view, we are told to surrender to their leadership in things not contrary to scripture. I hope we all plan to do this. It is my plan if McCain takes office.

 

So you're arguing that Plumber Joe represents all of America, that other people's needs don't need to be considerer? Think about what you're saying. Of course he is one of the millions of people that have a stake in this election. But I don't believe he's the ONLY one. Do you?