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Featured Ohio Republicans want voters to pay to get special ID cards

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Zaac, May 14, 2015.

  1. Darrell C

    Darrell C Well-Known Member
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    This is a valid point.

    They doubled what I was paying for health insurance so now I do not have it.

    Consider me disgusted.


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    Foolishness. Somehow requiring an id is equivalent to making someone pay to vote is just silliness.
     
  3. Zaac

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    If you're impeding my ability to vote based upon me being able to pay for a card, then it is the equivalent by law.

    Nothing again, but a round about ploy to suppress Black voters and the votes of the poor because they overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

    So the GOP needs to stop and just tell the truth of what this is really about.
     
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    What about the poor white folk who make under the national poverty standard?

    Oh that's right, they don't have to pay.


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  5. Darrell C

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    And how about impeding my ability to have health insurance without having to go through the Government to get it?


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  6. Revmitchell

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    Unless you have to pay at the voting booth then it is not pay to vote. Requiring an ID is smart. Not proving who you are is foolish. There is no reason to just trust someone when it comes to voting.
     
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    And with what we've seen in the last few elections...plenty of reason to distrust.


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    Other similar laws have already passed the constitutional test in the Supreme Court.

    Althought I believe the "special ID" needs to be free...and eventually will be.
     
  9. Zaac

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    Sure it is if you're requiring folks to have it or not get to vote. SO again, with the scant amount of possible voter fraud according to the SOS 's office in Ohio, there is OBVIOUSLY another reason for the GOP to be doing this.
     
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    How does the constitutional test work?
     
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    Thread is trollbait from PMSNBC but I just want to clear the air on this "Republican SOS" over there in Ohio - the dude has been very duplicitous on voter ID and he actually has come out against it after being for it to get rid of his Tea Party opponent and then the Democrat in the general election. He's a Juan McCain operative that actually mailed out absentee ballots to ALL registered voters in the state in 2012 all on his own. That is begging for fraud. He is NO great arbiter of election/voter fraud at all, his numbers in his report are only those cases that were referred to for election irregularities. In fact, the SOS himself had is own residency "irregularities".

    How is it possible that more people vote on Election Day than are even on the rolls? This has been honed to a fine art:

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=2216

    Three parts - fraud is rampant here in WA state with the vote by mail gimmick - in 2012, I received eight total ballots at this same address for the general election and never asked for one.
     
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    I'm sure the GOP scholars will come up with something crazy the same way they did with the Jim Crow Literacy tests where if you missed one question, you failed.

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    You can wail and gnash your teethe till the cows come home. Voter ID laws, when properly written are constitutional and here to stay.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawford_v._Marion_County_Election_Board




    Texas' voter ID law was alsallowed to go forward by SCOTUS in 2012. There are others. It's legal and constitutional. Get over it.
     
  16. Zaac

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    Sounds like Obamacare. Gotten over that yet?
     
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    I would definitely support a basic test for voters to see how well they understand the way our system of government is supposed to work. Theoretically, this is being taught in our school systems, so folks who graduate high school should be able to pass such a test.
     
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    Voter ID laws don't undermine the economy, increase taxes, and cost jobs.

    And they don't stop a single legitimate voter from voting.

    Get over it. The public debate is over. They are legal and constitutional.
     
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    IMO, the voter ID should come at no charge. However, in my current state of residence, a bill to have such a no-charge ID requirement took hits from exactly the same parts of the political spectrum, using all the same arguments except the one about fees. Thus I look at the fee as somewhat of a red herring in the philosophical discussion over voter IDs.
     
  20. Zaac

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    Sure it does.

    Sure they do.

    Don't have to. The public debate is ongoing. SO they might as well just make it free cause we're not in the 60s anymore.
     
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