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Only the Originals Are Inspired

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by SGO, Sep 28, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    The Trinity is still well supported in my Nas!
     
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    the WEB fails in 1 John 5:7, where the Greek of the context it is in, shows that these words MUST be part of the original Autograph of the Apostle John!
     
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    The NAS, no, as they used inferior NT Greek text, by those who did not have a high regard for the Authority of the Holy Bible!
     
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    in ONE verse, and as clear as 1 John 5:7?
     
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    The early Church father, Cyprian, who knew both Latin and Greek, and died about A.D.258, wrote:

    “Dicit Dominus, Ego et Pater unum sumus; et iterum de Patre et Filio et Spiritu sancto scriptum est: 'Et tres unum sunt.'” (Treatise I:6).

    "The Lord says, "I and the Father are one; " and again it is written of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, "And these three are one."

    Tertullian, about the same time, who also knew Latin and Greek, wrote:

    "Ita connexus Patris in Filio et Filii in Paracleto, tres efficit coharentes, alterum ex altere, qui tres unum sunt, non unus, quomodo dictum est, Ego et Pater unum sumus." (Against Praxeas XXV).

    "Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent persons, one from the other, which three are one, not one [person], as it is said, "I and my Father are One.""

    WHERE else other than 1 John 5:7, did they read this?
     
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    Every member of the Nas translation team holds to the Verbal plenary Inspiration of the Bible, and are even more biblical in doctrines then 1611 Anglican team!
     
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    Yes
     
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    How about Peter;
    mounds of evidence
    when talking about Paul

    "As also in all his epistles,
    speaking in them of these things:
    in which are some things hard to be understood,
    which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest,
    as they do also the other scriptures,
    unto their own destruction."
    2 Peter 3:16
     
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    where?
     
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    I'm not sure what your point is here.
     
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    regardless the Greek text that they used, that of Nestle/Aland, the Novum Testamentum Graece, is far inferior
     
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    Okay. I'm familiar with the arguments. What grammar are you speaking of specifically here?
     
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    Peter called Paul's writings scripture. (See recent exchange with SavedByGrace.)
     
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    "τρεῖς οἱ μαρτυροῦντες, masculine though Πνεῦμα, ὕδωρ, and αἷμα are all neuter". In verse 8 we have the use of the Greek article, "το εν εισιν", where even the great Greek scholar, Thomas Fanshaw Middleton, admitted in his work, "The Doctrine of the Greek Article: Applied to the Criticism and the Illustration of the New Testament", is a problem. The use of the article here is for "renewed mention", referring back to verse 7, "εν". etc
     
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    If they weren't just plain old copies were they "inspired copies"?
     
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    no, Jesus and the NT writers used the Hebrew original OT.
     
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    That was the inspired text!
     
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    "The original OT"?

    Do you mean the original inspired scripture?
     
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