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Original Sin Or Committed Sin

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by drfuss, Jan 15, 2010.

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  1. annsni

    annsni Well-Known Member
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    Did you not see post 116?? I'll repost it for you then:

    However, since Hebrews 11:13 says "These all died in faith", then is there an issue maybe we're not seeing?

    As for Elijah, we see that he was taken in a chariot into "heaven". Which heaven was this?

    Remember John 3:13 says "And no man has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of man who is in heaven. "
     
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  2. DHK

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    What about them?
     
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  3. Heavenly Pilgrim

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    Did they see death DHK?
     
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  4. DHK

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    The Lord often makes exceptions.
    Elijah saw an iron axehead float; no one else did.
    Moses saw a burning bush of fire and yet not burn; no one else did.
    Balaam heard his donkey speak; no one else had that experience.
    There was only one Day of Pentecost.

    God is sovereign. Accept it.
     
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  5. DHK

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    All who will be in the rapture when Jesus comes again will not see death either. What of it?
     
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  6. Heavenly Pilgrim

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    Our posts crossed. Agreed. Shell physical death then as universal consequence or result of some sin nature, agreed?
     
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  7. annsni

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    Once again I'll ask this question: Has there ever in history been one person besides God incarnate who did not sin. Since man is not sinful by nature, do we see any who did not sin? There MUST be out there somewhere despite what the Bible says.
     
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  8. DHK

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    All have a sin nature. God never made any exception there. But he did spare some from death.
     
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  9. Heavenly Pilgrim

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    So physical death is not a universal penalty for sin, correct?
     
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    Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

    Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
    --Have you lied HP, ever? Will you also go to the lake of fire?
    I am demonstrating your use of Scripture here?
    You are using Scripture here in this absolute way, but only when it suits you. Thus according to your own theology you are a liar and will spend an eternity in the lake of fire. For we know that you have lied. I hope you see the logic here.
     
    #130 DHK, Jan 19, 2010
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