Pastor tells congregation to, "Love it or leave it!"

Not too bad. Last time I bought there, I paid $14.99 for 100 rounds of 9mm. I'm hoping to head out to the range next week and the only 9mm I have is hollow-point -- way too expensive to waste at the range.

 

Whooo you have made all kinds of claims without a single stitch of evidence. You simply spew your opinion. However to answer your question I consider your statement a black and white fallacy because there are more than two options.

 

Good luck with that

 

Thanks for the reminder. I'm not my best self today.

 

Enlighten me: What are the other options?

 

Just because one has spoken of the country doesn't mean that they hold it above the Kingdom or the gospel. I don't happen to think what he did was smart. It just unnecessarily brings on controversy that is not helpful but the idea you have to speak to one or the other lest you be guilty of loving one above the other is absurd. It comes across as searching for a criticism and anything will do.

 

I definitely support our President and I have no desire to compromise with the devil's in the other party. They hate Trump because he is a nationalist, but mostly because he will stack the court and end abortion. I have no desire to work with any person who wants to murder babies. Have you read the DNC platform? Why would you want to work with any of those perverts?
The party platform is perverted.

 

When I was a pastor of a church, I found it difficult to build relationships with unbelievers since they tended to hold me at arms length because they assumed I would stand in judgment of their fallen situation. Now that I am not officially a pastor, I have many relationships with unbelievers and have had the privilege of seeing a number of them come to faith in Jesus. However, since the Trump campaign began in earnest in 2015 and prominent Christian leaders, especially Robert Jeffress at First Baptist Church Dallas (about 40 miles to the east of Fort Worth), jumped on the Trump train and blasted other Christians for not doing the same, I encounter difficulty sharing the gospel because too many unchurched people think I am trying to change their minds politically. They keep bringing up the latest Trump tweet or something that Franklin Graham has said about Trump and confuse that with the message of Jesus.

I have had more than a few new Christians ask me at church whether or not they can disagree with the President, since most of their other Christian friends seem to revel in the name-calling and bad behavior of the President toward "the liberals" (as many like to call non-Trump supporters). I have to point them to what Jesus taught in the gospels. But then they ask why some people loudly and proudly claim to be Christians, but they support things in the President and Republican Party that are literally antichrist.

So I am quite sensitive (as both a historic Baptist and a careful evangelist) to any mixing of of partisan politics with the message of the gospel of Jesus. The church must not send a mixed message. Putting purely political messages on a church's sign as their message to their community is an idolatrous pollution of the Kingdom of God with the kingdoms of the world that Jesus will one day judge.

I understand that and you get credit in my book for recognizing it. But it is worse than not being smart.

As an individual, I agree. But putting it on the official sign and messaging to the community is not absurb. It moves it into black and white territory.

You don't know me very well at all. I have better things to do than to critique the content of this site. However, this is a fundamental issue of the gospel, so it is worth a few minutes of analysis.

 

I've stated this many times before, but I state it again. I am a third-generation Republican who was a Republican in the South when it was a dirty word. I still hold the same principles I have held back when I voted for Ronald Reagan. The Republican Party is the one that has changed and I no longer identify as a Republican since the current crop of Republicans have rejected almost all of their historic values. But that doesn't make me a Democrat, it makes me an independent since there is currently no party that represents my views. However, I will not support Donald Trump in his re-election bid because of my Christian convictions.

 

You will be defector voting for the baby murderers. What did you like about Reagan? He gave us terrible justices.

 

I felt the same until the Democrat party became the Champions of evil. I have no desire to go to church with Democrats. Their platform is evil and I feel commanded to separate from them.(I cor 5:11)

 

I didn't defect, the Republican Party defected. And you will be voting for an immoral man who cannot seem tell the truth, nor admit he is wrong. You are voting for the corruption of the American ideals and an attacker of the First Amendment (speech, religion, and press) and the rule of law.

He was what the US needed at the time. Carter was not up to the demands of the office and Mondale was not much of a candidate. I also supported most of the Republican platform of the time.

I didn't care for Scalia at all, so I agree with that one. I don't have much of an opinion on O'Connor, but I tended to like Kennedy.

 

Trump is the ideal American.
You have no opinion on O'Connor? Seriously?

 

We have completely different perspectives on what is ideal, much less what an American is supposed to be.

She was hit or miss to me. I didn't like her position on school vouchers, but she was usually pretty good on religious liberty issues. She was a mixed bag on abortion. So there were things I liked and things I didn't like.

 

Prior to Sotomayor she was the most liberal justice ever.