POLL For Calvinists re: Salvation of Non Calvinists

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Is that why it clearly doesn't say that. I believe John called this adding to scripture.
May Christ Shine His Light On Us All;
Mike

 

Is that why it clearly doesn't say that. I believe John called this adding to scripture.
May Christ Shine His Light On Us All;
Mike </font>[/QUOTE]the word 'whosoever' isn't in the greek for John 3:16 so this is nonsense.

 

Most of the Christians I know, frankly, are either Arminian or at least "not calvinist," as they say ... but that in no way means they aren't saved, or that I think they aren't.

 

Poll Results: For Calvinists re: Salvation of Non Calvinists (22 votes.)

For Calvinists re: Salvation of Non Calvinists

I believe a non Calvinist can be saved. 91% (20)

I do not believe those who believe Calvinism is wrong are saved. 9% (2)

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Just to clarify, as an administrator, I can view results without voting on any poll. I did NOT vote since I am NOT a Calvinist.

 

Hi Whetstone;

You're right it say anyone
May Christ Shine His Light On Us All;
Mike :D

 

Hi Diane;
I didn't vote either I'm just a plain old Christian who doesn't follow men but Christ
May Christ Shine His Light On Us All;
Mike

 

Why do you insist that people who believe the way that John Calvin believed are followers of men?

If you and I had the same Christian beliefs, would I be a follower of you or vice versa?

 

When our Administrator Barnabas said almost the exact same thing you didn't attack him for these words. Why attack Mike?

http://www.baptistboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/35/1378.html?

 

But Barnabas DOESN'T say the same thing. He leaves out the insinuation that those who fall into a Calvinist or Arminian category are following men rather than Christ.

 

BTW, if Calvinists are followers of Calvin, how come every Calvinist on this board would disagree with a whole bunch of stuff that Calvin thought?

And how come, if Arminians are followers of Arminius, every Arminian I've ever met (and I'm talking those who will claim the lable) would disagree with a whole bunch of stuff that Arminius thought?

 

Read it again:

 

James 2:1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?

This scripture could be used to point out that we should not value the opinion of a man in a leadership position more than a mere board member.

 

Cassidy;

Like I told you before you accuse me of what you yourself are most guilty of.
Your just up set because you can't convince anyone of the false doctrines you preach. I'm so glad my Salvation doesn't depend on people like you and Calvin. Man has come a long way spiritually in the last 400 years not because of Calvin but because of the availability of the scriptures. Other wise we would all still be dependant on men like you.
May Christ Shine His Light On Us All;
Mike

 

All the arminians i've met personally didn't even know there was a guy called Arminius. :rolleyes: Not really sure what that means, but oh well.

 

Hi Herenow;

Because Calvin's thoughts were very obviously not his own, but those of Augustine. Calvin was a Catholic and atemptted to reform the Catholic faith. By using what he knew of Augustine's example.

Rom 15:20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation:

This is what Calvin did he built upon Augustines foundation. And all Calvinist follow the same trail. Some claim to have come to the same conclusions as did Auguistine through the scriptures, but we all know that is impossible. Simply because none of you have ever walked in Augustines shoes. Nor did you really know Him.
May Christ Shine His Light On us all
Mike

 

Hi Margo;
Although I'm not Arminian, I sure didn't know what an arminian was until I came here. I went to the same Bible baptist Church most of my life and never heard of Arminius.
People want to place us all in a catagory. The government does my Boss does. hehehe! I'm known as the bible thumping numbers man around work Glad I work for a Christian brother
May Christ Shine His Light On Us All;
Mike

 

Read it again:

 

When our Administrator Barnabas said almost the exact same thing you didn't attack him for these words. Why attack Mike?

http://www.baptistboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/35/1378.html?

 

Well to a person who really wants honest debate or to share the truth it should at least make you carefull of labels you install on people.