What is the Scriptural Basis for:
1.The Rapture of the Church prior to a Great Seven Year Tribulation?
2. The doctrine that the Church, for which Jesus Christ died, is a "Parenthesis" or Intercalation in God's Program for Israel!
Pre-Trib-Dispensationalism and the Bible
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by OldRegular, Jan 31, 2015.
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And in all honesty I must place the Word of God above that of John Nelson Darby, or C.I. Scofield, or Ironside, or Mackintosh, or Chafer, or Walvoord, or Ryrie, or DHK! -
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
You do not want to discuss or debate you simply want to berate. No one wants to do that. In fact there is nothing sincere about this thread. It is nothing more than you mocking what you disagree with. -
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It is wrong to tell lies DHK, particularly about Scripture. The following Scripture interpreted according to the supposed hermeneutic of the pre-trib-rapture-ready-dispensationalist clearly teaches a general resurrection and judgment yet you deny it.
John 5:28, 29
28. Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29. And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Some way or the other you dispensationalist find a mythical 1007 years encapsulated in that "hour" in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth. I expect it is the same way some people find millions of years encapsulated in the six days of creation. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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In this thread:
http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost...5&postcount=38
Evang. gives you some Scripture, and then a couple posts later he gives you some more.
This is what your reply is to all the Scripture that he gives:
You just don't like the Scripture he posted and completely dismiss it because you allegorize it away like any typical amillennialist would do.
It is a denial of the existence of Israel.
It is a denial of the Coming Kingdom of Christ.
It is a denial of the literalness of Scripture.
On the latter point, it becomes questioning: Is this really what God said? A matter of doubt in God's word. At least that is what I believe. That is what happens in allegorizing and spiritualizing scripture. One does not take God at his word. He is making it say something it doesn't say. -
You want to know what God really said then read John 5:28, 29. I post it again because it is the Word of God and God does not lie.
28. Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29. And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Try to allegorize John 5:28, 29 away. You cannot because it totally destroys the Darby-pre-trib-rapture-ready-dispensational-doctrine. So what do you do. you ignore it. Now you present a passage of Scripture that teaches a pre-trib-rapture of the Church as clearly as John 5:28, 29 teaches a general resurrection and judgment. You cannot because it does not exist! -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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